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The Fighting Forum / Re: Anderson's Boy says "Light the Fire!"
« on: September 18, 2019, 02:38:06 PM »
I would be considered KJV only.

However, I don't think all other translations are satanic or even "wrong."  I do think they are inferior and have errors.  I often consult them to help me understand difficult passages in the KJV, but I don't trust them as authoritative.  They make good commentaries and I utilize them as such.

That being said, I would never think of burning them or even "desecrating" them in any other way.     I don't think doing so would strengthen the faith of anyone and it would certainly offend many others.  Those that consider all translations to be "The Word of God" would be appalled and my influence would be devastated for no other reason than a publicity stunt.

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The Fighting Forum / Re: This Is How Nutty Calvinists Are.
« on: September 16, 2019, 09:52:20 AM »
The most common answer I hear from folks is "Evangelism and missions are the tools God uses to bring about his plan of redeeming the elect. (or something similar.)"

It still doesn't make any sense to me.  Is this one of those "embrace the tension" scenarios?

Why not? Even IFB crowd believes that God uses men to propagate the gospel.
The difference is, not in our mandate, but in the methods.

The IFBs teach that certain methods, plans and approaches are necessary to save people. This is reflected in their testimonials. "Today, while going door to door, I saved 30 people!"

The Calvinists give testimony in this way.... "Today, I had the opportunity to present the gospel and am thankful to have witnessed God's work in that person!"

Funny thing though... whenever an IFB or Calvinist prays, they both say, "God please save these people from their sins."

So, the consistent position is to approach evangelism with God as the Worker in the lives of men. No human method/plan or witnessing strategy offsets God's work in a person's life.

I just left a church where the newly installed pastor required EVERYONE to memorize rote phrasing when giving the gospel. As a Calvinist... with many years of schooling in the Bible... I don't need no stinkin' script.

Thank you for the response.  I agree that many IFB's use incorrect terminology when it comes to seeing God saving a sinner.  We all understand, he does the saving.  I also agree that many soulwinners have made salvation "transactional" and "obligational" on God's part.  That doesn't change my view on the absurdity of "persuading men" who have already been selected to be partakers of "irresistible grace."  I can evangelize out of "duty" and "obedience", but my work is ultimately pointless in the lives of sinners.  They will get saved whether I evangelize or not.  God is pleased when we witness, but we ultimately made no difference.  I believe that God can be "illogical" to us (his ways our not our ways), but I hate just defaulting to "God works in mysterious ways."

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The Fighting Forum / Re: This Is How Nutty Calvinists Are.
« on: September 16, 2019, 08:05:00 AM »
Ok...Calvin didn't say what Twisted said.....but...…….what is the purpose of evangelism in a predetermined world?

The most common answer I hear from folks is "Evangelism and missions are the tools God uses to bring about his plan of redeeming the elect. (or something similar.)"

It still doesn't make any sense to me.  Is this one of those "embrace the tension" scenarios?

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The Fighting Forum / Re: Is Buttigieg a Ruckmanite?
« on: September 13, 2019, 03:31:17 PM »
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Are all miscarried and/or aborted babies going to be in heaven?

Maybe they won't be, maybe they will. Would it offend you if they were?

It wouldn't offend me at all.  I just want to be intellectually honest and use logic when necessary.  God can certainly work in mysterious ways if he chooses, but I don't abandon reason where the Bible is unclear.

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The Fighting Forum / Re: Baptist Church Caves to Muslims!
« on: September 13, 2019, 03:15:45 PM »
Why is a church holding an "Anti-Muslim" event in the first place.

I'm pro-Christianity!  My Church is Pro-Christ!  I'm Pro-Bible!

Jesus was Pro-God's Kingdom, not Anti-Roman.

I want to be know more for what I am for and not just what I am against.

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The Fighting Forum / Re: Is Buttigieg a Ruckmanite?
« on: September 13, 2019, 11:35:14 AM »
Isn't the question "when does man become a living soul?"

Are all miscarried and/or aborted babies going to be in heaven?

70% of fertilized eggs never implant into their mothers womb.  25% of those never even register as a pregnancy before they naturally abort.  If a "soul" begins at conception, then 80-85% of the people in heaven will have never been born.

I'm not saying that I agree with Ruckman because the Bible is not clear, but his theory makes rational sense without contradicting scripture.  Still, just because abortion doesn't "kill a soul," it still takes an innocent life.

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The Fighting Forum / Re: Another Pastor commits suicide.
« on: September 13, 2019, 11:09:26 AM »
I hate to say this (I really, really do) but we don't see as much of this in SBC churches.  In my experience, the ones I'm familiar with have committees to run the church, which frees up the pastor to do what he should be doing, which in prayer and preaching the word.  That really takes off the stress.

Many reasons:
1. Sincere Christian Preachers get into sin and the guilt of living  a double life overtakes them.
2. Social Media has made the ministry into a competition in ways that it never was before.  Every post from someone's "good Sunday" is just a reminder of your "bad Sunday."
3. Taking too much of the burden on themselves instead of letting deacons run the daily affairs and letting the pastor focus on preaching, teaching, and ministering.
4. Let's be honest, young people are getting weaker in their ability to handle stress and responsibility.  This is a broad statement, but probably correct.  Why do pastors who have one service a week need to take month long "sabaticles?"
5. Finally, some folks have just been putting on a show for years and they don't know God or the Holy Ghost.  They talk the talk, but they are lost and empty inside.

I don't know who each point applies to and I am certainly not making any judgements about any particular cases.

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The Fighting Forum / Re: Jacob Loved, Esau Hated
« on: August 30, 2019, 03:22:22 PM »
You seem to have an issue referencing ANY Scripture...

—I asked if Romans 9 isn’t written for “the Church,” then neither was Romans 3, 10 and 12. No answer.

—I referred to Romans 7.15 about the definition of "hate" and Paul's use of the term. That was not answered.

—I pointed out your inconsistency that you should also believe that Romans 10:9-13 applies to nations and not individual people.

Unanswered. Well, that discussion quickly came to an end.

Romans 9 was written to the church to explain why God is just in rejecting the Jews for their lack of faith in Jesus Christ.

Hate can be used both ways.  In Romans 9 in regards to Esau, it shows that God chose Jacob and not Esau to carry on the promises of Abraham when neither had done anything good or bad.  God did not "hate" Esau in the sense that he despised him at birth.

I believe Jacob and Esau ARE referring to the individuals. 

All of those points seem somewhat minor and don't add much to the overall argument.

If God chooses who gets saved and stays saved unconditionally, then why did he reject Israel after initially choosing them?

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The Fighting Forum / Re: Jacob Loved, Esau Hated
« on: August 27, 2019, 10:05:51 AM »
The words “love” and “hate” are unequivocal. They mean what they mean.

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple" Luke 14:26

It is obvious, that "hate" in the above verse means to "prefer less."  Husbands are to "Love their wives."  We are told that if we "hate our brother" then we are not truly Christians.  I love my wife, but I love God more...thus, "I hate her."  I love my parents, but I "hate" them in comparison to God.

God chose Isaac over Ishamel for his own purpose.  He chose Jacob over Esau even though they were both descendants of Abraham.  God chose the Jews for his own pleasure, to make them his people.  They were preferred and beloved above all other nations.  However, since they rejected the promise that came by faith, they were also rejected by God.  God does not receive or reject people based upon their heritage or claim to a birthright.  He accepts them by faith.

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The Fighting Forum / Re: Pastor Charles Lawson
« on: August 26, 2019, 11:34:51 AM »
The Vatican and ET...….
CERN - The Key to the Bottemless Pit....
British Israelism....
The Cathedrals of France....

You can't call yourself a Bible Teacher and focus so much on Man-made ideas and conspiracy theories.

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