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Walt

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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2017, 10:04:12 PM »
Well, let me clear the air.  Anyone at Heartland will tell you that they are a ministry of SWBC.  That is first.  Second:  There is NO LIKENESS with HAC.  The "girls" don't sing the praises of the "MAN-A-GAWD,"  there is no perversion on staff, and the teaching of preaching is centered around STUDY and EXPOSITION, rather than "now put your Bibles down and listen to me!"  Men are not lifted up...the LORD is lifted up.  The rules are not ridiculous, rather, they are practical.  I am very pleased with the growth of my daughter at Heartland, the attitude and professionalism of the staff, and the love they have for the students.

BTW:  The school up the road is basically the same cult it has always been...a crude copy of HAC, predicated on lies (JV) and mind control, ripped by sex scandals, and a destroyer of people and families.  You are right when you say that OBC and HBBC are NOTHING like each other.

This is also what I've heard.

Saved by Grace

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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2017, 02:14:56 PM »
Well, let me clear the air.  Anyone at Heartland will tell you that they are a ministry of SWBC.  That is first.  Second:  There is NO LIKENESS with HAC.  The "girls" don't sing the praises of the "MAN-A-GAWD,"  there is no perversion on staff, and the teaching of preaching is centered around STUDY and EXPOSITION, rather than "now put your Bibles down and listen to me!"  Men are not lifted up...the LORD is lifted up.  The rules are not ridiculous, rather, they are practical.  I am very pleased with the growth of my daughter at Heartland, the attitude and professionalism of the staff, and the love they have for the students.

BTW:  The school up the road is basically the same cult it has always been...a crude copy of HAC, predicated on lies (JV) and mind control, ripped by sex scandals, and a destroyer of people and families.  You are right when you say that OBC and HBBC are NOTHING like each other.



Are you talking about the song leader at WHBC before Bro Van Manen

AlvinMartinezVoice

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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2017, 02:12:03 PM »
Heartland/Soouthwest won the war.

Saved by Grace

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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2017, 02:10:43 PM »
Heartland/Soouthwest won the war.

If that is how you view things then you have already lost

Justified

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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2017, 01:12:13 PM »
Heartland/Soouthwest won the war.

As a Heartland grad, it was never a "war," and it is terrible to view the HBBC-OBC relationship that way. We do things different ways, but we have a lot more in common than we do with other denominations or churches. Many Southwest and Heartland staff members and married students sent their kids to the school at Windsor, so it could hardly be considered a "war."

Twisted

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« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2019, 06:56:37 PM »
Oddly nothing in this thread mentions the fact that Heartland was started in part due to the closing of Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College that was in San Dimas, CA.  That school was run by Baptist Bible Fellowship.  There was "politics" involved but, as far as I know, Heartland started with no connection to the BBF.

I'm sure there is a back-story with all that which I am not privy to.

I do know one graduate who started at PCBBC and transferred to Heartland.  I'm sure there are others.
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Justified

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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2019, 07:43:47 AM »
Oddly nothing in this thread mentions the fact that Heartland was started in part due to the closing of Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College that was in San Dimas, CA.  That school was run by Baptist Bible Fellowship.  There was "politics" involved but, as far as I know, Heartland started with no connection to the BBF.

I'm sure there is a back-story with all that which I am not privy to.

I do know one graduate who started at PCBBC and transferred to Heartland.  I'm sure there are others.

That's not correct. Pacific Coast officially moved and became Heartland. All the records, property, and a good number of staff and faculty came to Oklahoma City.

After the move, Heartland was officially a BBC "approved" school for a few years until at some point Heartland severed ties. I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure Pacific Coast was also an "approved" school. I don't think it was run by the BBF in the same way that BBC was.

Twisted

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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2019, 10:26:05 AM »
Oddly nothing in this thread mentions the fact that Heartland was started in part due to the closing of Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College that was in San Dimas, CA.  That school was run by Baptist Bible Fellowship.  There was "politics" involved but, as far as I know, Heartland started with no connection to the BBF.

I'm sure there is a back-story with all that which I am not privy to.

I do know one graduate who started at PCBBC and transferred to Heartland.  I'm sure there are others.

That's not correct. Pacific Coast officially moved and became Heartland. All the records, property, and a good number of staff and faculty came to Oklahoma City.

After the move, Heartland was officially a BBC "approved" school for a few years until at some point Heartland severed ties. I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure Pacific Coast was also an "approved" school. I don't think it was run by the BBF in the same way that BBC was.

Yeah.  Thanks for the clarification.  Maybe there was a "split" with the BBF by Davidson?  Too long ago and too few brain cells left now.
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Twisted

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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2019, 10:31:58 AM »
Oddly nothing in this thread mentions the fact that Heartland was started in part due to the closing of Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College that was in San Dimas, CA.  That school was run by Baptist Bible Fellowship.  There was "politics" involved but, as far as I know, Heartland started with no connection to the BBF.

I'm sure there is a back-story with all that which I am not privy to.

I do know one graduate who started at PCBBC and transferred to Heartland.  I'm sure there are others.

That's not correct. Pacific Coast officially moved and became Heartland. All the records, property, and a good number of staff and faculty came to Oklahoma City.

After the move, Heartland was officially a BBC "approved" school for a few years until at some point Heartland severed ties. I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure Pacific Coast was also an "approved" school. I don't think it was run by the BBF in the same way that BBC was.

Found this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Baptist_Bible_College
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