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Izdaari

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Re: Head covering at Church
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2016, 12:19:52 PM »
That's all culturally relative stuff. What was proper in Paul's time isn't now. It isn't the custom for men or women to wear hats or head coverings in any church I've been to recently.

Are you taking the attitude that parts of the Bible we can ignore because it was instruction for "Paul's time"?

Once one starts down that road, more and more things can be ignored under the "not culturally relevant" banner...

Yes. I think that's just what it was: appropriate advice for Paul's time and culture, not especially relevant now. Paul's letters were addressed to specific Christian communities. Some of it is dealing with their particular concerns, and some of it is for all Christians fprever. This, IMHO, is in the former category.
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Izdaari

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Re: Head covering at Church
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2016, 01:35:37 AM »
I need to find a raspberry beret to wear to church, and also a red Corvette to drive to church. Both in honor of Prince of course.
Big-time negotiators, false healers and woman haters
Masters of the bluff and masters of the proposition
But the enemy I see wears a cloak of decency
All non-believers and men stealers talkin' in the name of religion
And there's a slow, slow train comin' up around the bend.

Walt

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Re: Head covering at Church
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2016, 07:29:20 PM »
That's all culturally relative stuff. What was proper in Paul's time isn't now. It isn't the custom for men or women to wear hats or head coverings in any church I've been to recently.

Are you taking the attitude that parts of the Bible we can ignore because it was instruction for "Paul's time"?

Once one starts down that road, more and more things can be ignored under the "not culturally relevant" banner...

Yes. I think that's just what it was: appropriate advice for Paul's time and culture, not especially relevant now. Paul's letters were addressed to specific Christian communities. Some of it is dealing with their particular concerns, and some of it is for all Christians fprever. This, IMHO, is in the former category.

Fair enough; that is your prerogative.

I think that God wrote the Bible for all time; that's why we find the command to "be modest", but God does not give a bunch of culture-specific items that are modest or not modest. It is for each Christian to determine by seeking God's will.

I Cor 11 is primarily about hair length, not hats.  We know so  because later in the chapter it says clearly that the woman's hair is given to her for a "covering".  Just because people have taken it to mean hats in the past doesn't mean that I am bound by their guesses.

It is clear that the Scriptural command is that a woman's hair is to be longer than a man's hair; moreover, it is to "cover" something on her head that it does not cover on a man's head.  The only things I can think of that this could apply to are (1) the ears or (2) the back of the neck; possibly both.