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Fresh Air

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Re: Are you a Baptist with a big B? Chuck certainly was.
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2012, 09:36:25 PM »
By church history I take it you mean Chatholic Church history?

*whispers quietly*

Catholics are also Christians.

/whisper

Also I take it you believe the salvation by grace was non existence for 1200 years till the reformation?

They also believe in salvation by grace.

That's funny. Somehow the 200,000 Polish/Hispanic Catholics within one mile of my church building have never gotten that memo. I know, b/c in the past 8 years we have knocked on every door within that mile ...and I haven't yet met one Catholic in this hugely Catholic neighborhood that had a grasp of scriptural salvation.

rsc2a

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Re: Are you a Baptist with a big B? Chuck certainly was.
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2012, 09:39:07 PM »
...a grasp of scriptural salvation.

1....2....3.....pray after me.

Now you've got your fire insurance...
"So let's suppose I raped your family." - Ransom

OZZY

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Re: Are you a Baptist with a big B? Chuck certainly was.
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2012, 09:56:15 PM »
...a grasp of scriptural salvation.

1....2....3.....pray after me.

Now you've got your fire insurance...
Seems you have no fire insurance . Your works are as filthy rags and if you are trusting them for salvation which the Catholics do I am afraid you salvation shall be in vain.
 

          "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God Not of works, lest any man should boast" (Eph. 2:8-9).

          "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Rom. 4:5).

          "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life." (Titus 3:5-7)

rsc2a

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Re: Are you a Baptist with a big B? Chuck certainly was.
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2012, 10:01:16 PM »
...a grasp of scriptural salvation.

1....2....3.....pray after me.

Now you've got your fire insurance...
Seems you have no fire insurance . Your works are as filthy rags and if you are trusting them for salvation which the Catholics do I am afraid you salvation shall be in vain.

 ::)
"So let's suppose I raped your family." - Ransom

jimmudcatgrant

Re: Are you a Baptist with a big B? Chuck certainly was.
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2012, 10:06:31 PM »
...a grasp of scriptural salvation.

1....2....3.....pray after me.

Now you've got your fire insurance...

You know, I have been saved for 29 years and a Baptist that whole time except for a couple of years in a Missionary Alliance Church, and I never heard anyone lead anyone to Christ that way, nor met anyone that got saved that way.  Seems presuppositions about Baptists abound as much as about Catholics.

Bob H

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Re: Are you a Baptist with a big B? Chuck certainly was.
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2012, 10:07:55 PM »
Council of Trent --> CANON 12:  "If any one shall say that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in the divine mercy pardoning sins for Christ's sake, or that it is that confidence alone by which we are justified ... let him be accursed"

You don't like the book of James?

"Luther
Bob
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A bulldog can whip a skunk anytime but it just ain't worth it

rsc2a

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Re: Are you a Baptist with a big B? Chuck certainly was.
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2012, 10:13:59 PM »
...a grasp of scriptural salvation.

1....2....3.....pray after me.

Now you've got your fire insurance...

You know, I have been saved for 29 years and a Baptist that whole time except for a couple of years in a Missionary Alliance Church, and I never heard anyone lead anyone to Christ that way, nor met anyone that got saved that way.  Seems presuppositions about Baptists abound as much as about Catholics.

I've heard plenty of altar call prayer, "once saved, always saved", do what you want stories in my time...
"So let's suppose I raped your family." - Ransom

rsc2a

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Re: Are you a Baptist with a big B? Chuck certainly was.
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2012, 10:15:06 PM »
Council of Trent --> CANON 12:  "If any one shall say that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in the divine mercy pardoning sins for Christ's sake, or that it is that confidence alone by which we are justified ... let him be accursed"

You don't like the book of James?

"Luther
"So let's suppose I raped your family." - Ransom

jimmudcatgrant

Re: Are you a Baptist with a big B? Chuck certainly was.
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2012, 10:17:49 PM »
...a grasp of scriptural salvation.

1....2....3.....pray after me.

Now you've got your fire insurance...

You know, I have been saved for 29 years and a Baptist that whole time except for a couple of years in a Missionary Alliance Church, and I never heard anyone lead anyone to Christ that way, nor met anyone that got saved that way.  Seems presuppositions about Baptists abound as much as about Catholics.

I've heard plenty of altar call prayer, "once saved, always saved", do what you want stories in my time...

So you have been a Baptist your whole life?  If not, I don't want to hear anything.  Just because you think God is a liar, that doesn't phase me at all.

Izdaari

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Re: Are you a Baptist with a big B? Chuck certainly was.
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2012, 10:28:49 PM »
...a grasp of scriptural salvation.

1....2....3.....pray after me.

Now you've got your fire insurance...
Seems you have no fire insurance . Your works are as filthy rags and if you are trusting them for salvation which the Catholics do I am afraid you salvation shall be in vain.
 

          "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God Not of works, lest any man should boast" (Eph. 2:8-9).

          "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Rom. 4:5).

          "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life." (Titus 3:5-7)

All the Scriptures you quoted are found in Catholic Bibles too.  :-*
Big-time negotiators, false healers and woman haters
Masters of the bluff and masters of the proposition
But the enemy I see wears a cloak of decency
All non-believers and men stealers talkin' in the name of religion
And there's a slow, slow train comin' up around the bend.