Is Ron DeSantis the Future of the Republican Party?

[FSSL]

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i agree with most of what you are saying.... ..but i don;t see it as a worship of trump…

Exactly. People are desperate! IRS is weaponizing, All time high inflation, all time high gas prices…

When you vote socialism in, you have to fight your way out of it. Apathy, piety and other issues clouding from clarity when it comes to policy are going to ruin us.

 

[illinoisguy]

IRS weaponizing, all time high inflation, all time high gas prices, socialism, Green New Deal, bans on fossil fuel production, massive illegal immigration, massive high crime and takeovers of big cities by Antifa and junkies, "mostly peaceful, social justice" rioting, massive brainwashing of school children with sodomite and transgender propaganda and Critical Race Theory, branding of opponents of Critical Race Theory as "domestic terrorists" - these are the things we should be fighting against and making an issue of, and I believe we can win on these issues, because people are desperate. Let's not get sidetracked on personalities and turn the election on a referendum on whether or not Trump is the New Messiah.

 

[AverageJoe]

Exactly. People are desperate! IRS is weaponizing, All time high inflation, all time high gas prices…

When you vote socialism in, you have to fight your way out of it. Apathy, piety and other issues clouding from clarity when it comes to policy are going to ruin us.

If you mean by "clarity" avoiding conscience...then you're welcome to it...You're always free to vote for whom you wish...that's the beauty of our system. Voting ones conscience is NEVER a sin. Sorry...you're not God, and you'll never convince me otherwise. (This isn't a jab towards you...but towards anyone who tries to make an issue of conscience over your so-called "clarity.")

 

[FSSL]

The conscience does not protect you from sinning or making wrong choices. In fact, it can lead to you thinking that a wrong choice is correct.

In our discussions, I am NOT forcing you against your conscience. I am challenging the assumptions and data that inform your conscience. That IS proper.

 

[Ransom]

I understand what you’re saying, but in America, we’re taught from a young age to participate in our democratic system, if for no other reason, to show respect to those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for our right to vote. For that reason, I’ll always cast a vote, even if it’s for a 3rd party candidate with no chance of winning.

At the provincial level in Ontario, we can also decline our ballot--by returning the paper ballot unmarked when it is given to you, it has to be recorded as declined. So it's still participating in the democracy, in a sense, as you still have to go to the polling place and publicly refuse to vote. There's nothing like that at the national level, although I have deliberately spoiled a ballot before as a protest vote, not that anyone would know it was me.

My main issue with voting for the sake of participating in the democratic system is the number of people who vote because they think they have a duty or obligation to vote, even if they have no understanding of the issues underlying that particular election. I would have the same problem with mandatory voting. I don't really want a whole bunch of low-information voters to turn out and vote arbitrarily or to vote en masse for a bad candidate because some fashionable influencer told them to.

 

[AverageJoe]

The conscience does not protect you from sinning or making wrong choices. In fact, it can lead to you thinking that a wrong choice is correct.

In our discussions, I am NOT forcing you against your conscience. I am challenging the assumptions and data that inform your conscience. That IS proper.

My conscience goes according to the Scriptures...does yours? I try to weigh everything I do against the Scriptures. Do I always succeed in making the right decision...no...DO YOU? I think not. None of us does. As stated...my mind is set, as is yours. We can agree to disagree...period.

 

[FSSL]

My conscience goes according to the Scriptures...does yours? I try to weigh everything I do against the Scriptures. Do I always succeed in making the right decision...no...DO YOU? I think not. None of us does. As stated...my mind is set, as is yours. We can agree to disagree...period.

Of course. Where in Scripture does it tell you not to vote? Where in Scripture does it tell me to vote for Trump? It doesn't.

I believe that the principles we find in Scripture related to taking care of the unborn, letting parents raise their children as they wish and protecting our protectors. That informs my conscience and I vote accordingly.

 

[AverageJoe]

Of course. Where in Scripture does it tell you not to vote? Where in Scripture does it tell me to vote for Trump? It doesn't.

I believe that the principles we find in Scripture related to taking care of the unborn, letting parents raise their children as they wish and protecting our protectors. That informs my conscience and I vote accordingly.

I know I've only "not voted" one time in my life...and that's when we had moved to Minnesota in the early 1980s. The officials wouldn't let us cast a vote for the Presidential elections because we had just moved there, and they feared we had already voted in GA by absentee ballot. We appealed that decision, but we were stymied. I hated Minnesota for that, and still question their ability to do this, especially in light of the fact we had a letter from the McDuffie County GA election commissioner stating we couldn't vote absentee there. Of course, Minnesota, crooked Democrat state that it is was fine with denying many their ability to vote that year.