We've have prayed for its closing for 5 years, when our family's eyes were opened. That day cannot come soon enough. I praise the Lord for all souls truly saved through the college and the church, but closing day will be a relief.
Is OBC closed?
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The college won't close until the church does. However they only have maybe 10 students this year so not long.
JustABigKid is right on that point. OBC will not likely close until the church goes under. OBC uses the church Sunday school classrooms for it's class rooms and the few remaining WHBC staff men teach the couple of classes they do run each semester.
But there is that dorm building they built in the late 90's that they still have not managed to make any principle payments on since it was built. It was built on the church property so it will go down with the church also.
4 million dollar debt is hard to maintain with less than 10 college students and a hundred or so church members.
But there is that dorm building they built in the late 90's that they still have not managed to make any principle payments on since it was built. It was built on the church property so it will go down with the church also.
4 million dollar debt is hard to maintain with less than 10 college students and a hundred or so church members.
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So if OBC is on fumes are they still running the North/South School of the Prophets?
Also where is Jon Shaver?
Plus Caleb Garaway( OBC Grad) seems to be doing well as a world famous evangelist. He was at North Valley Baptist last summer for Youth Conference and he sung lead while Alvin Martinez harmonized.
Also where is Jon Shaver?
Plus Caleb Garaway( OBC Grad) seems to be doing well as a world famous evangelist. He was at North Valley Baptist last summer for Youth Conference and he sung lead while Alvin Martinez harmonized.
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subllibrm said:
For sure not WORLD FAMOUS but he is getting around. I am happy for him and his family. Having left OKC has probably helped him a lot too.
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He did escape the old Vineyard camp and is making his rounds. He's famous but not famous as Jack Hyles/Larry Brown/Tony Hutson/Jack Trieber.
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Caleb Garaway worshipped the ground Vineyard's walked on. I doubt that him getting away changed anything for him.
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Garraway wasn't the only one who worshiped the Vineyards. Jon Shaver was a Vineyardite to a T!. Is Shaver still there? Also Jesse Jackson (Bob Ross' grandson or nephew) left the Vineyard camp and is now really into the seeker sensitive movement (Lifechurch.TV) and he's working to be a professional bodybuilder.
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AlvinMartinezVoice said:
You must have been trained in an IFBx. What little truth you do know mixed with some made up information to try to elicit a response as to the validity.
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AlvinMartinezVoice said:
You obviously don't know Johnny Shaver.
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TruthBearer said:
Yes but what about Shaver Magas? Or was it Magas Shaver? I think AMV has a man-crush. (Btw I am trolling for those who can't tell)
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AlvinMartinezVoice said:
And he's loyal to the IFB movement and didn't join the megachurch/seeker sensitive like a lot of OBC alums have. Looks like Michael Shaver also remained loyal to the cause as he works for his dad's church in good old Kentucky. Jon Magas is also loyal but working a "Real Job" and attending Southwest Baptist and recruiting hard for Heartland.
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We have more posters on this thread than Vineyard has students in his college.
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Wonder what the Vineyards would think of Joel McCarty becoming a liberal hipper hipster pastor who endorses false teachers like Carl Lentz/Craig Groeschell/Jamie Furtick/Perry Noble/Heath Mooneyham???? Well Caleb Garraway remained faithful to OBC/Windsor Hills/Vineyards by becoming a world famous evangelist and he still revers Jack Hyles and Jim Vineyard as his idols.