The "Great Commission".

Because UGly is a literal
Ransom. Literally no one is listening to you. Your smear campaign against Dispensationalism and KJVO groups has already been demolished.

You just called people "extreme" because they simply believe what the Bible says. I say being extreme is standing over it like you're God, twisting it, and using it to politically control people for their money *cough works salvation megachurch culture*.

Pantheist's deny the Lord Jesus Christ.
That is not the "sine qua non" of Pantheism. Ask Ransom, he'll tell you that it's believing creation itself is a literal extension of God.

There is NOTHING above the name of God. Nothing.
"..for Thou hast magnified Thy word above all Thy name." -Psalm 138:2

"He was being allegorical." -anti-"extreme", pro-delusion Ransom and unseen


Just be honest, unseen. You haven't read the Bible a day in your life.
 
Ransom. Literally no one is listening to you.
. . . not to mention that UGly's one of those semiliterate buffoons who doesn't know the meaning of "literally."
You just called people "extreme" because they simply believe what the Bible says. I say being extreme is standing over it like you're God, twisting it, and using it to politically control people for their money *cough works salvation megachurch culture*.
Just out of curiosity, have the people you think you're arguing with ever shown any signs of aging over the years?
 
New UGC Bible Study clearing up many of the topics in here coming soon.
 
That is not the "sine qua non" of Pantheism. Ask Ransom, he'll tell you that it's believing creation itself is a literal extension of God.

I never said anything about God's action upon this earth. I was talking about HEAVEN. For you say that heaven is not a extension of God's Divine Character is absolute rubbish.

You really are pitiful. You have no idea what you're talking about. Your theology is about as deep a thimble full of water. No Pantheist believes in Jesus Christ. Prove they do.


"..for Thou hast magnified Thy word above all Thy name." -Psalm 138:2

That is what your despot king James had printed. You know the one that killed his own people, was a drunk and self proclaimed leader of the "church' of God.......

It is NOT what the Scriptures say.

It is logical fallacy to claim such a thing. Anyone with any sense whatsoever knows better. All it was/is is a devilish attempt to inject a carnal understanding of God into the Scriptures.


Just be honest, unseen. You haven't read the Bible a day in your life.

I've posted thousands of verses in this forum from the KJV. How in world can anyone do such, yet "haven't read the Bible a day in your life"?

Just more lies from you.
 
"..for Thou hast magnified Thy word above all Thy name." -Psalm 138:2
That is what your despot king James had printed. You know the one that killed his own people, was a drunk and self proclaimed leader of the "church' of God.......


It is NOT what the Scriptures say.

It is logical fallacy to claim such a thing. Anyone with any sense whatsoever knows better. All it was/is is a devilish attempt to inject a carnal understanding of God into the Scriptures.

The ASV says that. For thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. (Psa 138:2 ASV)

So does the RV: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. (Psa 138:2 ERV)

I guess the corrupt Wescott & Hort weren't always wrong.
 
The ASV says that. For thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. (Psa 138:2 ASV)

So does the RV: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. (Psa 138:2 ERV)

I guess the corrupt Wescott & Hort weren't always wrong.
Westcott and Hort had nothing to do with it. You show your lack of understanding of biblical sources. Hort and Westcott produced a Greek edition of NT sources. The issue is relative to a misunderstanding of Hebrew sources. Even the stringent ESV emends the translation. The Old Greek sources do not have the issue. The Bishops Bible actually got it right.
 
Westcott and Hort had nothing to do with it. You show your lack of understanding of biblical sources. Hort and Westcott produced a Greek edition of NT sources. The issue is relative to a misunderstanding of Hebrew sources. Even the stringent ESV emends the translation. The Old Greek sources do not have the issue. The Bishops Bible actually got it right.
You keep typing.

We keep laughing.

Thanks for the entertainment.
 
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You keep typing.

We keep laughing.

Thanks for the entertainment.

Some people mock the truth. Some people laugh at the truth.

I dealt accurately with the information. You showed your lack of experience. You blindly parrot what you've been taught without any thought of verifying the information yourself.
 
The ASV says that. For thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. (Psa 138:2 ASV)
So does the RV: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. (Psa 138:2 ERV)
I guess the corrupt Wescott & Hort weren't always wrong.
What did Westcott and Hort have to do with the Old Testament?
 
"Every prophecy about Jesus Christ in the Old Testament was fulfilled literally. Jesus’ birth, ministry, death, and resurrection all occurred exactly as the Old Testament predicted. The prophecies were literal. There is no non-literal fulfillment of messianic prophecies in the New Testament. This argues strongly for the literal method. If a literal interpretation is not used in studying the Scriptures, there is no objective standard by which to understand the Bible. Each person would be able to interpret the Bible as he saw fit. Biblical interpretation would devolve into “what this passage says to me” instead of “the Bible says.” Sadly, this is already the case in much of what is called Bible study today. Dispensational theology teaches that there are two distinct peoples of God: Israel and the Church." (from gotquestions.org)
 
Now "gotquestions.org" are experts.....

It is funny when UGC talks of prophecies literally fulfilled in Jesus Christ and then denies the Kingdom isn't literally about the King. Jesus Christ.

They cant keep their lie straight. It just keeps spiraling out of control.
 
It is funny when UGC talks of prophecies literally fulfilled in Jesus Christ and then denies the Kingdom isn't literally about the King.
It's funny how 90% of what you say makes no sense and is basically just making stuff up.

"You said the Kingdom wasn't about the King" Nobody said that. Nobody says half of the things you say they do, while you don't remember half the things you yourself say.

Going around telling everyone you're a Jew who isn't a Jew, but a Gentile, even though you claim there are no physical distinctions between Jew and Gentile anywhere in the Bible, yet somehow you're still a physical Gentile and a Jew at the same time,

that you literally think the coming Kingdom is not real as it was an allegorical fable in BOTH the OT and NT descriptions of it, meaning that mountains, thrones, a table, and the earth itself are God, except you're "not a Pantheist" just because you believe in Jesus and this somehow disqualifies you from being one who thinks God's creation is God himself, which is literally what you said you believe, except you also think none of those things are real anyway meaning the "one spiritual Kingdom" will be just be spirits-only floating around in absolute nothingness.

"That's the Kingdom, guys. That's the Kingdom. Allegorize everything. It must match my theory." -the brilliance of Covenant Theologians who are ashamed to call themselves such.
 
Was this prophecy fulfilled literally from Isaiah 40:3-4? "The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain."

We are told in Matthew 3:3, Mark 1:3 and Luke 3:4-6 that John the Baptist fulfilled this prophecy. Question: did John the Baptist ride through the desert on a Caterpillar tractor, building a literal highway, and did he literally fill in every valley and level every mountain and hill in the area around Jordan?

If he didn't, then on what basis can we say that "There is no non-literal fulfillment of messianic prophecies in the New Testament?" Were Matthew, Mark and Luke allegorizing covert Covenant Theologians?
 
We are told in Matthew 3:3, Mark 1:3 and Luke 3:4-6 that John the Baptist fulfilled this prophecy
That entire prophecy about Jesus reigning over the new earth with his "government" from the throne of David is not yet fulfilled, only the part about John the Baptist making the way straight for him.

Just like Jesus "closed the book" in the middle of prophecy that was fulfilled with his first coming, while the rest of it was not fulfilled until the end times.

This is a common theme. Jesus and the Apostles were Dispensationalists in how they quoted portions of the OT that were fulfilled in their time while often stopping in the middle of passages and leaving them to be fulfilled at a later date or leaving others nullified in the past (i.e. avoiding pork under the law).
 
So essentially, Jesus is a Dispensationalist:

He stopped halfway through reading this prophecy, and right in the middle of it, he left the rest to be fulfilled at a later time.


Luke 4:17-21:
"17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears."

The prophecy he quoted from Isaiah:

"The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me, (fulfilled)
Because the LORD has anointed me
To bring good news to the afflicted; (fulfilled)
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, (fulfilled)
To proclaim liberty to captives
And freedom to prisoners; (fulfilled)

To proclaim the favorable year of the LORD (fulfilled)

[AND HE SUDDENLY CLOSED THE BOOK RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT]

And the day of vengeance of our God; (NOT fulfilled)
To comfort all who mourn, (NOT fulfilled)
To grant those who mourn in Zion,
Giving them a garland instead of ashes, (NOT fulfilled)
The oil of gladness instead of mourning, (NOT fulfilled)
The mantle of praise instead of a spirit of fainting.
So they will be called oaks of righteousness..." (NOT fulfilled)


Again, this is a common theme in scripture when they quote the fulfillment of prophecy as well as the phasing out of nullified dispensational instructions, like many ordinances under the law.
 
*Here's another prophecy Jesus partially fulfilled in his first coming:
(copy pasting this from our video doc since some are too lazy to watch them)


Matt. 4:13-17 (Jesus fulfilled Known Prophecy from Isaiah 9 as well)
“And leaving Nazareth, he came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles; The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Isaiah 9:6-7 (Yet Isaiah 9 includes further Prophecy about the Kingdom “at hand” YET TO BE FULFILLED)
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

When is it fulfilled? After the old earth is destroyed and the New Jerusalem is brought down out of heaven in Revelation 21:10-26.
 
did John the Baptist ride through the desert on a Caterpillar tractor, building a literal highway
Btw, you're essentially mistaking analogies for allegories.

The substitutionary use of an analogy still retains the literal context of the surrounding sentence. For example, one might (stupidly) argue that "stripes" means zebra stripes since God didn't literally say "whip marks" Jesus would receive. After all, "stripes" might have multiple, "hidden symbolic" (allegorical) meanings, and doesn't then have to literally mean what it obviously implies in the context of the surrounding sentence.

In fact, one might argue any analogy could mean whatever they want.

Claiming analogies make the entire context of a passage allegorical, meaning purely symbolic and open to 1,000 or more private interpretations, is what Covenant Theologians need to flex their proud theories over God's words. It is not where God's words speak to the humble listener.
 
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