Do Christians Worship a Jew?

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...as Seth Dillon asserts here?




By "Jew," Dillon thinks he means a Hebrew only, and we'll go with that for now. But is anyone called a Jew who is uncircumcised?


My answer is, no. We no longer know Christ after the flesh. Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 2 Corinthians 5:16

What do you think?
 
Ekklesian said:
What do you think?
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Jesus, whom Christians worship, is physically descended from Judah.

I think this isn't so hard.

Unless you're pretending not to understand as a pretext to blabber about Joooooooooooooooooooooooooos again.
 
Ransom said:
Jesus, whom Christians worship, is physically descended from Judah.

I think this isn't so hard.
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Is, or was?

Paul says 'was,' and I agree. We don't know Him after the flesh any longer. Is DNA a thing in the Resurrection? Do you think your lineage here in the earth has anything to do with your identity in Heaven?

In Christ there is no jew or gentile.

No. We do not worship a Jew.


Ransom said:
Unless you're pretending not to understand as a pretext to blabber about Joooooooooooooooooooooooooos again.
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LOL. Apooooooooooooooooooooooostacy.
 
But that's treating jewishness as a race or ethnicity. Like I said, Dillon is thinking Hebrew, not jew. To be a Jew is a covenant thing, which is why I asked, is anyone called a Jew who isn't circumcised?
 
Ekklesian said:
Paul says 'was,' and I agree. We don't know Him after the flesh any longer. Is DNA a thing in the Resurrection?
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"Paul says 'was'" is so vague an assertion it lacks meaning.

Jesus was taken into heaven bodily--that is, still in the flesh that he inherited from his mother. When he ascended, an angel told him he would return in the same manner (Acts 1:11); is the body that he will return in the same body he left in, or are you insinuating he exchanges it for another one in the meantime? You know, less Jewish.

Does Jesus have a just claim to inherit the throne of David if after the flesh he is no longer a descendant of David?
 
LOL. Apooooooooooooooooooooooostacy.
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If you say so. But I've been called "apostate" and "heretic" by all sorts of nitwits who can't nail down my supposed apostasy to any specific fault. Your accusation is as vacuous as theirs, and I care just as much.
 
Ransom said:
If you say so. But I've been called "apostate" and "heretic" by all sorts of nitwits who can't nail down my supposed apostasy to any specific fault. Your accusation is as vacuous as theirs, and I care just as much.
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Im not calling anyone here an apostate, though Dispies teeter on the edge.

It's the danger inherent in fauning over the Jews and their counterfeit state, founded, as it is, on lies, and on the chief lie, that Christ has not come. That the man, Jesus, was a liar, His blood unclean, and judgement imposed upon Him by the Jews was just.
 
Ransom said:
"Paul says 'was'" is so vague an assertion it lacks meaning.

Jesus was taken into heaven bodily--that is, still in the flesh that he inherited from his mother. When he ascended, an angel told him he would return in the same manner (Acts 1:11); is the body that he will return in the same body he left in, or are you insinuating he exchanges it for another one in the meantime? You know, less Jewish.

Does Jesus have a just claim to inherit the throne of David if after the flesh he is no longer a descendant of David?
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Mat 22:45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
 
This might help

Mat 22:43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord
 
Ransom said:
or are you insinuating he exchanges it for another one in the meantime? You know, less Jewish.
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This much we're told, that the body that is sown is not the body that is raised.

The rest of us, who may be living at the appearing of Christ, will be changed.

We will receive a spiritual, glorified body. And we will be like Him.

In the case of Christ, He is now glorified.

Im not insinuating, anything. Im just listening to Paul.

Christ was known once according to the flesh, and in the likeness of sinful flesh, He was the son of David.

But now we know Him as the Son of God. And David is not God's father. Neither is Mary his mother.

We do not worship a Jew. We worship God.
 
DrHuk&Duck said:
Has anyone on this forum ever said otherwise?
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I think many here, including yourself, would applaud Dillon's assertion. But the discussion is a current event. They're discussing right now, whether we have the right to preach an historic, anti-Zionist Christianity.
 
Ekklesian said:
Lol. The answer to the question will clear the matter up.
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Nothing needs clearing up.

"And Jesse [was] the father of David the king. And David was the father of Solomon by the wife of Uriah... And Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ" (Matt. 1:6-16).

Both Luke and Matthew affirm that Jesus was a descendant of King David. He was a member of the tribe of Judah. A literal ethnic Jew.
 
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