Divorce: The Sin Preachers Nod & Wink At

Bruh said:
I believe we all come with some baggage. However, a divorced person more than doubles it, I’m sure. That’s just logic. You disagree?
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Like almost everything, context matters.
All divorces are not the same.
All divorced people are not the same.
You disagree?
 
DoctorDuck said:
Not if the marriage involves two Christians and the marriage has been consummated. Only death can break the bond of marriage. If divorce does occur, the two Christians are obligated to never remarry an outside person, but of course they’re free to remarry one another (as they should to restore the bond). Marriage is more than just a legal contract, it’s a covenant before God.
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So, if 2 Christians marry, there is no biblical justification for divorce?
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
So, if 2 Christians marry, there is no biblical justification for divorce?
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I’d say 99.99% no. There may be some rare exception that would justify a divorce, but it would be something so rare it wouldn’t be worth even mentioning. The two partners are free to live separately as man and wife, but a contract with God cannot be broken, even if the state of North Carolina says it is.
 
DoctorDuck said:
I’d say 99.99% no. There may be some rare exception that would justify a divorce, but it would be something so rare it wouldn’t be worth even mentioning. The two partners are free to live separately as man and wife, but a contract with God cannot be broken, even if the state of North Carolina says it is.
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Who decides whether the rare exception is justification?
Biblical marriage is a covenant, not a contract.
Biblical Marriage is from and of God…a covenant between a man, a woman and The Lord. The state treats it as a contract.
 
DoctorDuck said:
Counseling. Work on the marriage for restoration.
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Great in theory and counseling is a viable option.
However serial and adultery that is nor repented of or forsaken cannot be counseled into health.

Adultery that is not repented of and serial abuse are justification for divorce.
Again, context matters and every instance is different.

Your view, in my view, is unbiblical.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
Who decides whether the rare exception is justification?
Biblical marriage is a covenant, not a contract.
Biblical Marriage is from and of God…a covenant between a man, a woman and The Lord. The state treats it as a contract.
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For example, if the marriage has not been consummated. Or, perhaps, you found out that you married a relative, or maybe you were married under false pretenses, etc.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
Like almost everything, context matters.
All divorces are not the same.
All divorced people are not the same.
You disagree?
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I agree every divorce is different. However, every divorce is messy. Especially if there’s children involved. Meshing two divorced families typically doesn’t go well. Bringing a man into the home of children is very difficult and confusing for children.

My experience tells me that a man or woman will not treat the wife’s children or the man’s children as his or her own and the children may not be able to articulate it, but they feel it.

The ex’s will be a part of that man or woman’s life forever. Typically, either are unable to act like adults and they take it out on the step kids.

And when the child or children act out because of the disastrous mess that their parents threw them into, the step parents typically for whatever reason treat the step kids like crap.

And to top it off, the step parents kids are always and I mean always sooooooo much better in every way than the new spouses kids.

And the parents typically use the kids as a weapon. And the kids feel that. They know.

To be clear, my parents were married for 40 years before my dad died.

Make sense?
 
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DoctorDuck said:
Counseling. Work on the marriage for restoration.
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Dude my wife cheats on me I’m divorcing. If my wife flirts with another man I’m divorcing.

Look this is how I see it. If she wants to do that, then go do what you gotta do.
 
ALAYMAN said:
That sounds pious, but Phil’s cited authority and exegesis was the Bible too, unless you are once again seemingly pitting Paul’s inscripturated word against the red letters?

By your legalistic logic those who are remarried should be subject to church discipline and excluded from communion unless they divorce. I am not able to see the Biblical course of reasoning that leads to that conclusion, but if you actually believe that’s what Jesus was commanding, well, ok, go with that.
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Robin Hood stole from the rich in order to give to the poor. Guess what, it still makes him a thief.
 
DoctorDuck said:
For example, if the marriage has not been consummated. Or, perhaps, you found out that you married a relative, or maybe you were married under false pretenses, etc.
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I did t ask for examples, I asked who gets to decide what is a biblical justification?
 
Bruh said:
I agree every divorce is different. However, every divorce is messy. Especially if there’s children involved. Meshing two divorced families typically doesn’t go well. Bringing a man into the home of children is very difficult and confusing for children.

My experience tells me that a man or woman will not treat the wife’s children or the man’s children as his or her own and the children may not be able to articulate it, but they feel it.

The ex’s will be a part of that man or woman’s life forever. Typically, either are unable to act like adults and they take it out on the step kids.

And when the child or children act out because of the disastrous mess that their parents threw them into, the step parents typically for whatever reason treat the step kids like crap.

And to top it off, the step parents kids are always and I mean always sooooooo much better in every way than the new spouses kids.

And the parents typically use the kids as a weapon. And the kids feel that. They know.

To be clear, my parents were married for 40 years before my dad died.

Make sense?
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It’s just a list of anecdotal, stereotypical examples.
Your experience is certainly valid…as your experience.
However, others with very different experiences might not come to your conclusions. Marriage…even a good marriage…is not some fairy tale experience. I have been married for 52 plus years and we both brought personal baggage to the altar.

As to personal experience, I have divorced friends who have also been happily married for 40 plus years. I believe scripture allows for divorce under a few conditions and in those instances remarriage is not sinful but blessed by God.
 
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