The Israeli attack on Iran.

biscuit1953 said:
There is zero reasons for Iran to enrich uranium other than for the purpose of creating a nuclear weapon.
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Trump Threatens To Bomb Iran to Smithereens for 'Playing by the Rules' - LewRockwell

“If they don’t make a deal, there will be bombing. It will be bombing the likes of which they have never seen before.” President Donald Trump, NBC News Interview, March 30, 2025 President Donald Trump is threatening to launch air strikes on Iran for activities that are approved under the terms...
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"Many people believe that a country with vast oil resources like Iran has no need for nuclear energy, but that’s simply not true. Much of Iran’s electricity generation takes place at the Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant, Iran’s primary nuclear power facility, that uses low-enriched uranium to generate significant electrical power and reduce reliance on fossil fuels.

"Iran also uses nuclear technology to produce radioisotopes for medical diagnostics and treatment,… widely used in cancer diagnosis and imaging. Iran claims its nuclear program supports healthcare by providing isotopes for over 1 million patients annually.

"Iran also uses nuclear energy in industrial applications, agriculture, water resource management, scientific research, cancer treatment, technology and radioisotope production. The fact is, no country would join the NPT if they were denied the 'peaceful use' of nuclear power. Why would they?"

[I don't understand what gives us the right to tell Iran or any other nation that they are not allowed to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. This is not a valid reason to go to war. The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty specifically gives Iran the right to peaceful uses of nuclear energy. This treaty has been signed by the United States, by Iran, and by every other nation in the world except India, Pakistan, North Korea, South Sudan and Israel. Here is the applicable text of that treaty]:

"Article IV 1. Nothing in this Treaty shall be interpreted as affecting the inalienable right of all the Parties to the Treaty to develop research, production and use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes without discrimination and in conformity with article I and II of this Treaty. 2. All the Parties to the Treaty undertake to facilitate, and have the right to participate in, the fullest possible exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for the peaceful uses of nuclear energy. Parties to the Treaty in a position to do so shall also co-operate in contributing alone or together with other States or international organizations to the further development of the applications of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, especially in the territories of non-nuclear-weapon States Party to the Treaty, with due consideration for the needs of the developing areas of the world."

 
Bruh said:
Tulsi Gabbard said in March of this year that Iran has no nuclear program.
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Tulsi Gabbard may have said that but how could she know since Iran admitted they were hiding their nuclear enrichment facilities from inspectors? So President Trump should just wait until they announced themselves as a nuclear state when it is too late to put the Genie back in the bottle?
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Iran announces a new nuclear enrichment site after UN watchdog censure

Iran says it has built and will activate a third nuclear enrichment facility, ratcheting up tensions with the U.N. immediately after its atomic watchdog censured Iran for failing to comply with obligations meant to prevent it from developing a nuclear weapon.
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"Tucker Carlson warned Monday that U.S. involvement in the escalating Israel-Iran conflict could bring down President Donald Trump and mark the collapse of America’s global influence.

"In an appearance on Steve Bannon’s WarRoom, Carlson argued a full-scale war in the Middle East could derail Trump’s second term and devastate the country’s standing globally."

www.mediaite.com

Tucker Carlson Tells Bannon Israel-Iran Conflict Could ‘End Trump’s Presidency’ and ‘American Empire’

In an appearance on Steve Bannon’s WarRoom podcast, Carlson said a full-scale war in the Middle East could derail Trump’s second term.
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illinoisguy said:
www.lewrockwell.com

Trump Threatens To Bomb Iran to Smithereens for 'Playing by the Rules' - LewRockwell

“If they don’t make a deal, there will be bombing. It will be bombing the likes of which they have never seen before.” President Donald Trump, NBC News Interview, March 30, 2025 President Donald Trump is threatening to launch air strikes on Iran for activities that are approved under the terms...
www.lewrockwell.com www.lewrockwell.com

"Many people believe that a country with vast oil resources like Iran has no need for nuclear energy, but that’s simply not true. Much of Iran’s electricity generation takes place at the Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant, Iran’s primary nuclear power facility, that uses low-enriched uranium to generate significant electrical power and reduce reliance on fossil fuels.

"Iran also uses nuclear technology to produce radioisotopes for medical diagnostics and treatment,… widely used in cancer diagnosis and imaging. Iran claims its nuclear program supports healthcare by providing isotopes for over 1 million patients annually.

"Iran also uses nuclear energy in industrial applications, agriculture, water resource management, scientific research, cancer treatment, technology and radioisotope production. The fact is, no country would join the NPT if they were denied the 'peaceful use' of nuclear power. Why would they?"

[I don't understand what gives us the right to tell Iran or any other nation that they are not allowed to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. This is not a valid reason to go to war. The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty specifically gives Iran the right to peaceful uses of nuclear energy. This treaty has been signed by the United States, by Iran, and by every other nation in the world except India, Pakistan, North Korea, South Sudan and Israel. Here is the applicable text of that treaty]:

"Article IV 1. Nothing in this Treaty shall be interpreted as affecting the inalienable right of all the Parties to the Treaty to develop research, production and use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes without discrimination and in conformity with article I and II of this Treaty. 2. All the Parties to the Treaty undertake to facilitate, and have the right to participate in, the fullest possible exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for the peaceful uses of nuclear energy. Parties to the Treaty in a position to do so shall also co-operate in contributing alone or together with other States or international organizations to the further development of the applications of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, especially in the territories of non-nuclear-weapon States Party to the Treaty, with due consideration for the needs of the developing areas of the world."

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The issue is uranium enrichment, which is not required to produce electricity.
Only necessary if you want to create a nuclear weapon.

Iran has significantly expanded its nuclear program, including uranium enrichment, and now possesses the capacity to produce enough fissile material for several nuclear weapons, though it has not yet built a nuclear weapon. The program includes facilities like Natanz and Fordow, with advanced centrifuges capable of enriching uranium at faster rates.While Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium exceeds the limits set by the 2015 nuclear deal, it is not considered weapon-grade by international standards.
 
Bruh said:
Tulsi Gabbard said in March of this year that Iran has no nuclear program.
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I would also like to point out that Tulsi Gabbard's information is only as good as the democrats working under her left behind by Biden. You can't trust the bureaucratic state. She said it was the intelligence community's assessment, not her own assessment. Once again Trump is not sending American troops on the ground but simply helping take out the underground nuclear facilities if necessary. That is my understanding.
 
Vice President Vance has just put out a statement. I believe this explains what President Trump is thinking.

“I’ve seen a lot of confusion over the issue of “civilian nuclear power” and “uranium enrichment.” These are distinct issues. Iran could have civilian nuclear power without enrichment, but Iran rejected that. Meanwhile, they’ve enriched uranium far above the level necessary for any civilian purpose. They’ve been found in violation of their non-proliferation obligations by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which is hardly a right wing organization. He may decide to take further action to end Iranian enrichment. That decision ultimately belongs to the President.”
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
The issue is uranium enrichment, which is not required to produce electricity.
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That statement is half true. Uranium enrichment is not required to produce electricity in non-nuclear generating plants. However, it is required to produce electricity in a nuclear plant.

"The nuclear fuel used in a nuclear reactor needs to have a higher concentration of the U235 isotope than that which exists in natural uranium ore. U235 when concentrated (or enriched) is fissionable in light-water reactors (the most common reactor design in the USA). During fission, the nucleus of the atom splits apart producing both heat and extra neutrons. Under controlled conditions, these extra neutrons can cause additional, nearby atoms to fission and a nuclear reaction can be sustained. The heat energy released, by the controlled nuclear reaction within the nuclear reactor, can be harnessed to produce electricity. Commercially, the U235 isotope is enriched to 3 to 5% (from the natural state of 0.7%) and is then further processed to create nuclear fuel."

Uranium Enrichment

Uranium Enrichment
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Article IV of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which America signed, specifically grants to all signatories, including Iran, the right to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. Since production of nuclear energy by definition involves the use of enriched uranium, we really don't have the right to forbid Iran from producing and using enriched uranium to produce electricity in a nuclear plant. For us to go to war against Iran, to prevent them from using enriched uranium to produce electricity, would be a violation of the treaty which we signed.

Somebody please give us a better reason to go into a stupid forever war in the Middle East. Or else, let's call the whole thing off.
 
illinoisguy said:
"Tucker Carlson warned Monday that U.S. involvement in the escalating Israel-Iran conflict could bring down President Donald Trump and mark the collapse of America’s global influence.

"In an appearance on Steve Bannon’s WarRoom, Carlson argued a full-scale war in the Middle East could derail Trump’s second term and devastate the country’s standing globally."

www.mediaite.com

Tucker Carlson Tells Bannon Israel-Iran Conflict Could ‘End Trump’s Presidency’ and ‘American Empire’

In an appearance on Steve Bannon’s WarRoom podcast, Carlson said a full-scale war in the Middle East could derail Trump’s second term.
www.mediaite.com www.mediaite.com
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This will be Trump's undoing if he follows through, and doesn't return to a truly America First policy.
 
biscuit1953 said:
I would also like to point out that Tulsi Gabbard's information is only as good as the democrats working under her left behind by Biden. You can't trust the bureaucratic state. She said it was the intelligence community's assessment, not her own assessment. Once again Trump is not sending American troops on the ground but simply helping take out the underground nuclear facilities if necessary. That is my understanding.
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illinoisguy said:
That statement is half true. Uranium enrichment is not required to produce electricity in non-nuclear generating plants. However, it is required to produce electricity in a nuclear plant.

"The nuclear fuel used in a nuclear reactor needs to have a higher concentration of the U235 isotope than that which exists in natural uranium ore. U235 when concentrated (or enriched) is fissionable in light-water reactors (the most common reactor design in the USA). During fission, the nucleus of the atom splits apart producing both heat and extra neutrons. Under controlled conditions, these extra neutrons can cause additional, nearby atoms to fission and a nuclear reaction can be sustained. The heat energy released, by the controlled nuclear reaction within the nuclear reactor, can be harnessed to produce electricity. Commercially, the U235 isotope is enriched to 3 to 5% (from the natural state of 0.7%) and is then further processed to create nuclear fuel."

Uranium Enrichment

Uranium Enrichment
www.nrc.gov www.nrc.gov

Article IV of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which America signed, specifically grants to all signatories, including Iran, the right to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. Since production of nuclear energy by definition involves the use of enriched uranium, we really don't have the right to forbid Iran from producing and using enriched uranium to produce electricity in a nuclear plant. For us to go to war against Iran, to prevent them from using enriched uranium to produce electricity, would be a violation of the treaty which we signed.

Somebody please give us a better reason to go into a stupid forever war in the Middle East. Or else, let's call the whole thing off.
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The enrichment levels required for nuclear weapons are significantly higher (often above 90%) than those used in commercial nuclear power reactors.

The issue is their enrichment program and process, NOT having nuclear power plants.
And it appears to me Iran is close to doing what is necessary to allow the whole thing to be called off.
 
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biscuit1953 said:
Tulsi Gabbard may have said that but how could she know since Iran admitted they were hiding their nuclear enrichment facilities from inspectors? So President Trump should just wait until they announced themselves as a nuclear state when it is too late to put the Genie back in the bottle?
apnews.com

Iran announces a new nuclear enrichment site after UN watchdog censure

Iran says it has built and will activate a third nuclear enrichment facility, ratcheting up tensions with the U.N. immediately after its atomic watchdog censured Iran for failing to comply with obligations meant to prevent it from developing a nuclear weapon.
apnews.com apnews.com
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So Iran admitted they lied?

Ooooook.

I think one of the many narratives they used against Sadam was that he lied too.

How many times do we have to be lied to before we stop believing these ppl lying us into wars?
 
biscuit1953 said:
I would also like to point out that Tulsi Gabbard's information is only as good as the democrats working under her left behind by Biden. You can't trust the bureaucratic state. She said it was the intelligence community's assessment, not her own assessment. Once again Trump is not sending American troops on the ground but simply helping take out the underground nuclear facilities if necessary. That is my understanding.
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I’m pretty sure the democrat elites what this war.

Big money in war. Every shot fired and every bomb that explodes their pockets get bigger. Am I missing something here?
 
Bruh said:
I’m pretty sure the democrat elites what this war.

Big money in war. Every shot fired and every bomb that explodes their pockets get bigger. Am I missing something here?
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The only thing you are missing is President Biden gave Iran billions of dollars to arm terrorist organizations and allowed them free reign to do what they will. Biden could have cared less if Iran became nuclear or not.
 
Bruh said:
So Iran admitted they lied?

Ooooook.

I think one of the many narratives they used against Sadam was that he lied too.

How many times do we have to be lied to before we stop believing these ppl lying us into wars?
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The point is lying about uranium enrichment and not enabling inspections would allow them to become nuclear and start an arms race throughout the Middle East.
 
Bruh said:
I’m pretty sure the democrat elites what this war.

Big money in war. Every shot fired and every bomb that explodes their pockets get bigger. Am I missing something here?
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If they go according to form, if Trump supports the war, they will be against it.
Opposition to Trump seems to be their entire strategy.

I don5 think most Americans will want/support an extended war…especially if it involves our troops actively involved. I don’t see that happening in Iran…but stranger things have happened.
 
Ekklesian said:
That's right. He was almost killed, and like any man, he's shaken by that, and acknowledging God in his preservation, and is wanting to seek God's will in that.

And Paula White is there whispering in His ear: If you would serve God, support Israel. If you would secure blessings for America, support Israel.
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Well, well, well....

Not just Paula White, but Mike Huckabee, too. God saved Trump to bomb Iran.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee Sends President Trump Powerful Text Message with a Historical Analogy as Trump Weighs His Options On Israel-Iran War | The Gateway Pundit | by Cullen Linebarger

One underrated voice in President Trump’s ear has broken his silence on the ongoing Israel-Iran war with a lengthy and powerful statement this morning that contains significant historical context.
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Huckabee starts by expressing his heartfelt belief that God had a hand in saving President Trump’s life and noted that Trump is the one person made for the moment. [Explicit reference to Mordecai's admonition to Esther to save the Jews...]​
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The ambassador then encourages Trump to listen to God and let Him help make the most important foreign policy decision (at least in Huckabee’s opinion) since former president Harry Truman ordered the dropping of the atomic bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki back in 1945. [...by bombing Iran]​
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Regardless of where one stands on this Iran issue, it appears MAGA is imploding from within.
 
Ekklesian said:
Well, well, well....

Not just Paula White, but Mike Huckabee, too. God saved Trump to bomb Iran.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee Sends President Trump Powerful Text Message with a Historical Analogy as Trump Weighs His Options On Israel-Iran War | The Gateway Pundit | by Cullen Linebarger

One underrated voice in President Trump’s ear has broken his silence on the ongoing Israel-Iran war with a lengthy and powerful statement this morning that contains significant historical context.
www.thegatewaypundit.com www.thegatewaypundit.com

Huckabee starts by expressing his heartfelt belief that God had a hand in saving President Trump’s life and noted that Trump is the one person made for the moment. [Explicit reference to Mordecai's admonition to Esther to save the Jews...]​
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The ambassador then encourages Trump to listen to God and let Him help make the most important foreign policy decision (at least in Huckabee’s opinion) since former president Harry Truman ordered the dropping of the atomic bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki back in 1945. [...by bombing Iran]​
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I guess it comes down to what we believe concerning the differences between the Church and Israel are doesn't it. I agree with RC Sproul, John Owen, Charles Spurgeon and other reformed theologians that God isn't through with Israel.
 
biscuit1953 said:
The only thing you are missing is President Biden gave Iran billions of dollars to arm terrorist organizations and allowed them free rein to do what they will. Biden could have cared less if Iran became nuclear or not.
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Obama did the same thing, remember?

There are more terrorist governments. Are we going after them too?
 
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