Servants Conference 2026

Justice1976 said:
From a VERY outside, looking in perspective, it looks to me like a conference of a large church -- not a mega church. It seems like there are remnants of the old days, like a having a conference, i.e., "Pastor's School", each March, but it doesn't appear to really be the same as three decades ago. The same goes for the college -- it's still there, still bears the name, but it actually isn't the school that existed thirty years ago. It's as though the current leadership is trying to maintain some semblance of the past, but recognizing that those days are long gone, but trying to sustain some relevance. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I actually think John Wilkerson is probably doing the best he can with the situation he inherited. I am sure that some tough decisions have had to be made, with some still left.
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From what I hear from those on the inside, Wilkerson is a man of humility and integrety. He does not seem to care about numbers but cares greatly about making a difference. Does anyone know him personally. Is my understanding correct?
 
Baptist Renegade said:
Has the "Balance of Power" now shifted within the IFB world? I know literally next to nothing these days and am blissfully ignorant of most things IFB.

Have things dispersed among smaller camps or IFB "Sleeper Cells?" Has Paul Chappell now become the defacto "IFB Baptist Pope" or is there anyone else angling for this "title?" I know that Jack Trieber is getting up in age and has now been pretty much eclipsed by his at one time "protege" to the south of him. What of the "Sword" crowd? I did a quick check of the National Sword Conference and hardly recognize any of the names. Seems to me that if there was a "King Maker," it would certainly be the SOTL but I am not seeing anyone who is particularly standing out but perhaps someone from the "Inside" would have better insight here? All of the "Old Guard" (Neal, "Texas" Bob Gray Sr, Etc.) have cut and run down to Florida where they likely have their wagons circled and are "Holding the Fort"

I believe that Wilkinson painted himself as a "Kinder-Gentler" version of the old "Hyles-Schaap" regime but he is most certainly "One of Them" cut from the same cloth and it seems to me that he is mostly toeing the line that is enforced upon him by the "Old Guard Establishment" that is firmly embedded there and the ones who had given Wilkerson his "Rubber-Stamp" approval in the first place.

Perhaps they ought to have a Servetus Conference instead? Let their motto be "Why Damn them to Hell Without a Chance?"
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Wilkerson seems to be more concerned with giving a clear plan of salvation and making sure the other person understands no matter how long it takes. I have been told he has said from the pulpit not everyone is ready to accept Jesus. Sometimes it takes time. He also seems to put a lot of weight in disipleship nd teaching converts. Seeing you converts grow in the Lord is an important part of the great commission.

Wilkerson cleaned house in the first 5 years he was there. look at all the well known staff people who quietly left. Not sure he is the rubber stamp you think he is.
 
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sword said:
Wilkerson seems to be more concerned with giving a clear plan of salvation and making sure the other person understands no matter how long it takes. I have been told he has said from the pullpit not everyone is ready to accept Jesus. Sometimes it takes time. He also seems to put a lot of weight in disipleship nd teaching converts. Seeing you converts grow in the Lord is an important part of the great commission.

Wilkerson cleaned house in the first 5 years he was there. look at all the well known staff people who quietly left. Not sure he is the rubber stamp you think he is.
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At Servants' Conference he threw a grenade at the 1, 2, 3 Pray after me garbage.
 
At Servants' Conference I accidentally heard a college guy talking about parental visitation involving kids in a household victim of divorce. He referred to it as "conjugal visitation." Not one in the conversation batted an eye.

I about had a Bapticostal shouting fit knowing there are still HACkers among us.
 
sword said:
Wilkerson seems to be more concerned with giving a clear plan of salvation and making sure the other person understands no matter how long it takes. I have been told he has said from the pullpit not everyone is ready to accept Jesus. Sometimes it takes time. He also seems to put a lot of weight in disipleship nd teaching converts. Seeing you converts grow in the Lord is an important part of the great commission.

Wilkerson cleaned house in the first 5 years he was there. look at all the well known staff people who quietly left. Not sure he is the rubber stamp you think he is.
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I have heard that not everyone who left took it well. I mean, that's understandable when you're asked to vacate a job you have held for years. Everyone thinks THEIR job is most indispensable, when relatively few are. I say again that in order to survive, a lot of tough decisions had to be made. In some ways, I'm surprised the college is still open.
 
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Baptist City Holdout said:
At Servants' Conference he threw a grenade at the 1, 2, 3 Pray after me garbage.
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I know I've been gone for decades, but if the college adopts that approach to evangelism, it's a radical shift from the Hyles days and sure to change most everything there if it does in fact, survive.

Does anyone know if the students still submit mandatory weekly activity reports? (I always wondered if anyone actually read all of those things...if so, quite impressive.)
 
sword said:
Wilkerson seems to be more concerned with giving a clear plan of salvation and making sure the other person understands no matter how long it takes. I have been told he has said from the pullpit not everyone is ready to accept Jesus. Sometimes it takes time. He also seems to put a lot of weight in disipleship nd teaching converts. Seeing you converts grow in the Lord is an important part of the great commission.

Wilkerson cleaned house in the first 5 years he was there. look at all the well known staff people who quietly left. Not sure he is the rubber stamp you think he is.
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If I was wrong then I am glad. I hardly hear anyone speaking of the old "Hyles Soulwinning Methodology" but as I have said, I am as far removed from this world these days but I do confess that my personal philosophy and methodologies are in reaction to it. There is a good bit of damage that needs to be undone.
 
sword said:
I have been told he has said from the pullpit not everyone is ready to accept Jesus.
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They might not be ready to repent, just like Pharaoh wasn't ready to let Israel go, but they're commanded to. Acts 17:30

I'm not saying we cajole or pressure them. After the first and second admonition, we go on our way, but they need to be warned.
 
Justice1976 said:
From a VERY outside, looking in perspective, it looks to me like a conference of a large church -- not a mega church. It seems like there are remnants of the old days, like a having a conference, i.e., "Pastor's School", each March, but it doesn't appear to really be the same as three decades ago. The same goes for the college -- it's still there, still bears the name, but it actually isn't the school that existed thirty years ago. It's as though the current leadership is trying to maintain some semblance of the past, but recognizing that those days are long gone, but trying to sustain some relevance. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I actually think John Wilkerson is probably doing the best he can with the situation he inherited. I am sure that some tough decisions have had to be made, with some still left.
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I actually DO NOT think that John Wilkerson is “doing the best with the situation he inherited”. I believe that John had the amazing opportunity to change the guard, get rid of the scum, however you’d like to phrase it. He chose to remain stagnant and allow the bad behavior to continue. So many of the humans who are still there and have been all along, keep doing the things that should’ve stopped a long time ago! I mean no ill will toward Justice 1976.
 
Ekklesian said:
They might not be ready to repent, just like Pharaoh wasn't ready to let Israel go, but they're commanded to. Acts 17:30

I'm not saying we cajole or pressure them. After the first and second admonition, we go on our way, but they need to be warned.
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It goes without saying that FBCH still has a faulty soteriological position as do most of the good, well-intentioned "free-willies" here. I will therefore accept the "Not yet ready" verbiage as being their understanding of one who has been exposed to the gospel message but has not yet experienced efficacious grace whereby they are granted repentance and faith to believe. At least they realize that it is God who does the saving and I am fine with this.
 
Baptist City Holdout said:
At Servants' Conference I accidentally heard a college guy talking about parental visitation involving kids in a household victim of divorce. He referred to it as "conjugal visitation." Not one in the conversation batted an eye.

I about had a Bapticostal shouting fit knowing there are still HACkers among us.
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Perhaps you heard wrong. Perhaps they said court appointed or court ordered visitation.
 
Justice1976 said:
I have heard that not everyone who left took it well. I mean, that's understandable when you're asked to vacate a job you have held for years. Everyone thinks THEIR job is most indispensable, when relatively few are. I say again that in order to survive, a lot of tough decisions had to be made. In some ways, I'm surprised the college is still open.
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Many are pastoring now and are doing well. May have been the change they really needed.
sawthruglassclearly said:
I actually DO NOT think that John Wilkerson is “doing the best with the situation he inherited”. I believe that John had the amazing opportunity to change the guard, get rid of the scum, however you’d like to phrase it. He chose to remain stagnant and allow the bad behavior to continue. So many of the humans who are still there and have been all along, keep doing the things that should’ve stopped a long time ago! I mean no ill will toward Justice 1976.
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Every report I have been given they are doing well. Focusing on seeing people saved, Baptied and disipling and teaching them. Never giving up on people and making helping and serving other the mission.
 
Sword, Are you on staff.......you remind me of someone. People that prey after others can not change....it's who they are so watch out for them. They are among us..........
 
TidesofTruth said:
I don't know what Paul Chapel disagreed with Schaap on but I will give you the items that changed wherher you agreed with the change or think he was right on them i don't care to argue. These are the doctrinal and other changes that came into the church in which I wrote letters to him and staff. I was not staff nor a deacon. I did have an official volunteer involvement which had cause for me to scrutinize the sermons in detail for error of which there were multitudes. Some men including myself were praying for God to change him or remove him. And we who could "slow walked" national exposure due to the overwhelming arrogance.

Again if you believe he was right on these issues I will not argue. But they were not historical FBCH positions.

Pastor School Sermon "For Christ's Sake" where he made up a conversation between a vegenful God who hated mankind and a loving Jesus who stood between God and Man and said I will Go to soothe the Father's wrath. Lowering God and ascribing characteristics than were more human than God.

Pressed and told several of us that he wanted the music to be like Brooklyn Tabernacle.

Music Changes The song "Lord I believe in you" which was a 1999 Crystal Lewis Christian Rock Anthem 16 weeks at #1 as the main song at Pastor School. When confronted over this issue prior to Pastor School he stated "I suppose Amazing Grace was #1 at one time too."

The High School Band began to play Rock Songs from the 60's and 70's complete with Back Beat. Louis Loius is one I remember

In one sermon I was shocked. A book I reviewed for a website I was editor of Rapture Ready/Prophecy Fellowship in which I warned against it 2 years prior, the storyline was use as an Illustration in a sermon. The book is a heretical book that teaches God comes to you in various forms to allow you to handle the Who of who He is and tells the hurt one in the story there are many paths to God as this god is a african-american woman. Later I had come to find out He was giving this book out to those who had been hurt and/or abused. The even later I had come to find out his newly installed Youth Pastor was doing the same with the teens,

About the same time he stirred an unneeded controvery as he decided to use his english degree and teach us and the rest of IFBdom the meaning of inspired as he chose this as an occasion to state the King James Version of the Bible was not 'Inspired" as he defined it as God breathed the words and thus God did not breathe out the words in English as he placed his less than doctrinally sound and experienced son to educate us all in a national teleconference. Then calling "Preserved Inspiration" a "Damnable Heresy".

The Book The Divine Intimacy in which he unartfully tried to explain the intimacy between a married couple and Christ and the church in which several key doctrinal and just plain weird interpretations of scripture we eisegeted including Psalm 119:30 ‘I have chosen the way of truth: thy judgments have I laid before me.’ interpreting "Laid" as gutter slang for sexual intercourse. Furthermore using pictures of our physical intimacy to show understanding of our intimacy with Jesus. Now this is a common Biblical teaching and taught by a wide variety of preachers Evangelical and Baptist alike, Physical pictures always were a depiction of an aspect of our relationship with Jesus eg Song of Solomon. Completely Pure teaching of love and relationship. Even the physcal act of marriage portrays rightly so, an aspect of intimacy (non sexual, so don't get weird on me) with Jesus. What Schapp did was to make physical pictures then equate to other physical pictures and came up with the lacivious idea that communion/Lord Supper was equivelent of a type of cosmic sex with God. He then went on to do the same with Psalm 119:31 “I have stuck unto thy testimonies: O LORD, put me not to shame.”

He taught that unrepentant sin could be in "remission" seperating action from standing and allowing iniquitous living and a right standing before God.

He taught that coming forward in an invitation and praying at the altar was a statement stating you were in agreement with the preaching.

He would not allow correction. He would not allow Matthew 18 confrontation.

Later it was determined that there were many lies told to the church concerning the finances of the church. A 17 Million dollar Building program was realized after his ejection was 48 million never vored on. His dealings with a business man who was used in funding much of the other downtown projects was less than transparent. When questiones by anyone concerning these finances he would state "I got this".

As you can determine, the fall of Jack Schaap wasn't a slight error in jugement or even a season of sin. It was a pride filled head long run into self agrandizement, unbiblical teaching, and rebellion against God in every way possible.

All of this pales in comparison to the outright unspeakble, abhorent blaspemies he used to groom the girl that he committed is evil upon. I was sick to my stomach when they were published when his lawyer tried to justify that his supposed good mitigated his evil. I truly understood for the first time what abomination meant. Lately I have found this very common among the NAR charasmaniacs in most every case of SA (Look Into Mike Winger (CC Taught, EV Free pastor) on youtube. Not an endorsement). To be so common as they did not learn it from each other I can only conclude it is a demonic instruction.
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1. What was the book that you mentioned that was recommended to the teens?
2. Was that by BH?
3. $47 mil? I thought it ended up being $30 mil
 
Baptist Renegade said:
It goes without saying that FBCH still has a faulty soteriological position as do most of the good, well-intentioned "free-willies" here. I will therefore accept the "Not yet ready" verbiage as being their understanding of one who has been exposed to the gospel message but has not yet experienced efficacious grace whereby they are granted repentance and faith to believe. At least they realize that it is God who does the saving and I am fine with this.
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Their theology is horribly unbiblical.
 
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