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a very angry man prone to violence.... and not smart enough to realize violent actions have violent consequences...... ..the broken rib should have taught him something.... ...

thanks for the additional info.... i know that in cults of that type - the cult leaders - like david koresh - purposefully kick the feedback loops to keep them going..... i see that also happening in minnesota with the irresponsible and dangerous rhetoric of both tim walz and jacob frey...

i did not know that.. ....it was a long time ago when i read an article about it... . ..they focused on the fbi mostly and their major fiacos ...including the atlanta bombing case...... i rmember plenty of mentions of janet reno in all of it but i don;t remember them mentioning william...

my sister drives that same kind of black chevy surburban.... except that hers is 4 wheel drive... . and she always has a gun too..... :) ... never been chased by anybody though... as far as i know...

it doesn;t look good at all..... but like most all of us said from the beginning - we just have to wait and see what the investigation reveals...:confused:. . but i did see one thing i liked in a picture from that article..... i really like the shirt with the southwest pattern print that one...

do you have any proof janet reno ordered the incineration of people at waco?....... as far i know she wasn;t there..... . were you?....

assault does not require contact.... assault is an intentional action that puts someone in fear of harm.... examples.... physical actions or verbal threats in a persons presence that gives them reason to believe the threats will be carried out ..or escalate to an action causing them to be...

oh gee.... i;m sorry... .. of course when you say.. "the white house responded with -"... it has nothing to do with trump..... :rolleyes: sometimes i forget just how slippery and disingenuous you can be in these conversations......... you are so quick to whine that nobody answered your...

no.... though it happened when i was too young to pay attention to the news - i read about it later..... .in both that case and the ruby ridge case many of the people involved should have been charged with murder..... .....janet reno was definitely responsible for what happened..... but worthy...

i did see them.... sub is just not happy with my opinion on them.... .. .or any opinion for that matter, that doesn;t match his.... .

nah... you are not an extremist at all..... are you?.... :rolleyes:

translation... you want to see anti trump propaganda based on democrat talking points.... .... you are more predictable than pavlovs dog......... . why do you think the gun has to be in prettis hand before ice officers can shoot him?........ you have never been to war or in a fight to the...

i remember my dad being shocked when he realized he was older than obama.... ....after trumps second victory we told him to just get ready - coz he;s probably going to be older than every future president from now on...... :D

well.... thankfully ..... (though your passion for this case is duly noted) .... .. you will not be serving as investigator - prosecutor - judge or jury - as you sit there in your armchair - with your laptop - looking at fuzzy out of focus images from a chopped up pieced together video...

the ice agent in possession of the gun when it went off - would most likely be fired - (depending on why and at what point the gun went off..). the agent who shot pretti would stand trial for wrongful death - possibly murder/manslaughter.... .it would have to be determined whether or not he...

that might be the law in some places.... but even here in hawaii.. the most blue state in the union.. it has been ruled before that if an aggressor is simply attempting to gain control of the gun- it gives officers warrant to shoot him.. ....since action is faster than reaction once the gun is...

that;s where you are wrong..... .regardless of what i saw... didn;t see... or thought i saw in a grainy chopped up and piece-mealed video.. (pieces of which might be missing) ....... whether or not the gun was in prettis hand at the moment he was shot is irrelevant - he was still brandishing a...

very true... . and thank you.... i think it;s also ironic because in the case of his tagline - he only wishes it was true.... ..