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While I generally agree with the sentiment of advocacy, that is only valid as a premise if both partie agree that the authority for resolution lies in authority of the Scriptures, not the US Constitution or case law.

Evangelical churches for centuries, even millennia, have practiced church discipline. Do some reading on Church history and you’ll find that it is a cornerstone of what most theologians agree is a core tenant of what constitutes a legitimate church.

Yes, two times in over 20 years I’ve been involved with church discipline. Once it was resolved without going before the church, and the other resulted in the people leaving the church. Regarding the possibility of having a lawyer present in such cases, my inclination is to say no, as our goal...

Yeah, I thought that the counter perspective that they were trying to display would be a little more “ wholesome”. Just goes to show you that politics make for strange bed fellows, especially when mingled with Christianity or religion.

Well, I agree that there are boundaries that get crossed that turn from respect to hero worship, there’s nothing wrong with cultivating an attitude amongst our youth (which was usually the context that these kinds of signings took place) to see respect for godly men (and women), rather than...

Adultery and sexual sins, such as fornication, as I pointed to in the previous post are legitimate reasons for discipline, as is gossip. The Bible says that somebody who isn’t willing to work shouldn’t be entitled to eat (2 Thes 3). That same passage says that those who are lazy and won’t work...

What do you do with the power granted to the church leaders in passages like this… “It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. And ye are puffed up, and have not rather...

So are you saying that Church discipline is antiquated and stupid in general? Or just that the manner (of church discipline) in which some people wield power over the sheep is wrong?

Making an analogy between a corporate employment/termination situation and a church disciplinary action seems to be a stretch. The implication of thorough and prudent disciplinary action within a theological and ecclesiastical context means that a person can’t just do what Dave Hyles (and...

Bears Super Bowl win??? Dude, 1985. You’re old. 😆

When I said I hadn’t watched the “halftime show in probably 20 years”, that was a clue as to how disinterested I am/was. The only reason I proposed the question was because of the demographic of this forum being in the wheelhouse for Turning Point USA, coupled with the intense amount of...

OK, I have to stand corrected in light of your “wardrobe malfunction” reference point. It’s been more than 20 years since I’ve watched the halftime show, lol. And as somebody who is near the foothills of the Appalachian mountains (redneck Heaven), very close to trailer parks and folk living up...

Well, that was pretty lame. I haven’t watched a halftime show in probably 20 years, their usual agenda is not in alignment with my taste buds. But if the Turning Point thing was supposed to convert me, well, that was an epic fail. I’m getting old, lol.

Culture wars, money to be made.

Tell the truth, Detroit not being there, you couldn’t bear to watch. 😁

Geek, lol

Beat me to it. 👍🏻

If so, are you watching its Halftime Show or Turning Points?

Though not quite that dated, the nuclear installation where I work in my very young days had posters like that all over the place to remind you of the importance of avoiding espionage and speaking of classified information in the presence of crying eyes and desperate ears.

I was floundering as a carnal Christian, attending church out of duty once or twice a month, when the church that I am now an associate pastor in brought a young preacher boy from HAC to pastor in 2000. God used that young man to help me become a soul winner, and quit leading an apathetic...