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Well, just like you talked about the reality of congregational expectations regarding ostentatious displays of wealth as a deterrence or hindrance to ministry, there is a reality that many people who are active church members have expectations of what they like in their pastor, and it's a...

I don't think that a pastor should show indications of being gay. 😁 J/k Sure, I could see it that way just as Paul said, that he would not have the same kind of encumbrances. Or, put another way, I wouldn't rule such a man out just because he didn't have a family.

So would you be willing to join yourself to a church that did not teach timing as the model? And for the record, are you suggesting that ministers should not receive any pay from those that they minister to?

I have chaired two different pastoral searches. It's a LOT of work, particularly wading through volumes of applicants (and this is a small church that I'm talking about, so not drawing the attention of big fish). In the hundreds of resumes that I have looked at, I've never seen a single...

What has been said that gives you the impression that there's hate for unmarried pastors?

Aside from the divorce, the other issues named might serve as examples to the congregation on how to handle normal family trials (1 Timothy 3:5).

Never really thought about it before. I think I see what you're alluding to, and acknowledge that it's potentially a unique "gift" to a select few. But Scripture speaks in an explicitly affirming way of marriage in the pastoral Epistles qualifications, so I'm good with what God delineates as...

How are you connecting the doctrine of tithing to the subject of the appropriate pay and lifestyle choices of pastors?

Maybe I phrase that more terse than I meant to. What I was getting at was, scripture should determine our principles, not typically what gurus say. For instance, I've already positively applauded John Piper and Rick Warren (who I'm generally not a big fan of) for not taking their salaries and...

Your Catholic wannabeism is showing again. 😁

Owens sounds like the proverbial hit dog howling to me. C.C. is well known for their expository preaching/teaching. I'd much sooner follow their "message of Christ" (her words) than what I've heard of her Catholic version.

Oh go ahead, name drop. 😁

Yes, whispers very likely. But the question remains, if he performed his pastoral responsibilities competently and remained approachable, *should* there be whispers? For sure. The men I've known who answered just that kind of call were all more than able to earn 6 figure salaries in secular...

Just messin' wit ya Ekk 😁 MAGA Melts Down Over ‘Emasculating’ J. Crew Sweate

My apologies if I gave the impression that I was speaking of people on this forum. That's not the case at all. Most answers have been very reasonable with workable solutions. One of the first experiences I recall as a young actively growing Christian church member was an elderly couple...

Yes, willingly foregoing potential wealth, as Piper and Warren did, is certainly an option and laudable. But, if the absolute expectation is that they forfeit those revenue streams simply because external voices say so I think we've crossed over into unwarranted unbiblical mandates.

This answer cuts quickly to the main point I think I was trying to make. Yes, there are people like those in the Word- Faith movement who clearly violate principles that should curtail a pastor's ostentatious use of wealth. But there are a whole lot more people that seem to want to keep the...

Who is Matt slick and why should we care about his example and teaching? The small church that I go to has had four pastors in my time there in nearly 30 years. Three of them have been bivocational. Nothing wrong with such a model as long as both the pastor and the church understands such...

I agree with all of this, and have experienced similar in my time in church. Having said that, I don't see how such blessings would interfere with a pastor's calling, and and shouldn't be perceived as inappropriate. I don't want to misunderstand you and respond inappropriately or off base, so...