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I think you are correct. I am not a huge Ramsey follower, but it seems to me that he takes a very simplistic approach -- don't be in debt, pay cash for everything you can, have an emergency fund. That's not radical. I think where he comes from on credit cards is that for MANY people they are...

I'm in the deep south in a "small" metro area. I don't think any of the trad churches (Baptist, Meth, Presby, etc.) are flourishing. Maybe a few, but not the majority. The only one that is growing is an "ARC" church (are you familiar with the "Association of Related Churches) which in the past...

"Booger Brown"? :oops: Is that someone I should know?

I don't expect for you to find anything.

Jo, just reading your post makes me tired now! Yes, we were living versions of the same life in the seventies. I have tried to forgive my youthfulness, but am prone to bouts of "what if?" I must believe that all of the parts of my story were part of God's divine plan for my life and as the old...

Something else, not so good. Did anybody else get demerits and get "campused" at HAC? I did and it still perturbs me when I think about it. I won't say who my dorm inspector was because I otherwise liked him, but he kept writing me up that my bed wasn't made properly, which eventually got me...

Since these are random musings, I thought about all the good hymns I was introduced to at FBC/HAC back then, that I had never heard in the little Baptist church of my youth. I still find myself humming some of those today from time to time and I think about the good things of that time. I am...

I believe there is a legitimate purpose for that kind of training in the military. I believe people like Jim Vineyard did it because he COULD and he liked it. Again, in the end I thought less of Bro. Hyles for allowing Vineyard to operate as he did in those years. And in those years it was hard...

He was a teacher at HAC in the seventies. I think he may have been raised at FBC. He was a fairly young guy, but I have no idea where he ended up in the eighties and beyond.

It is articles just like that that make me wonder what I was thinking fifty years ago. I guess the answer is that I wasn't thinking much at all. And that shames me.

Jim Vineyard was a super successful (big numbers) bus guy when Hyles brought him in. He had put up big numbers for Jerry Falwell. He did the same at FBC. He was not an academic in any respect, but that didn't stop him from trying to replicate the FBC/HAC model in Oklahoma. He saw what would...

Yes. I think that is a fair analogy of those times. I cannot speak for the female students, but for the males it was very much like a paramilitary organization. You were ordered what to do and expected to do it, with no push back. Vineyard carried this out further than anyone. Frankly, I think...

In all fairness, what I saw was not “bend over and take your licks.” He would set up scenarios where the guy would be unsuspecting and then swat him on the ass when he wasn't expecting it. Then he and his buddies would get a big laugh out of it. It was truly juvenile.

He was a bully. Hard stop.

It was done in an impromptu, juvenile and prank style fashion, but yeah, I saw it. And I say again, I wondered how Jack Hyles let it go on. But Vineyard was on his way out when I witnessed it.

I do remember the paddle, but I distinctly remember him using it on male college students, especially smaller ones. He and his minions would get a big laugh out of it and would threaten all types of unmanly actions if the guys breathed a word. That didn't sit well with me and I have not...

Hairspray.

I hope you don't mind me hijacking your thread, but I just thought of something about my HAC experience. It's been almost fifty years ago so the details are sketchy. The Fall of 1976 was my first semester and the last year that Jim Vineyard would serve on staff at the church and college. I...

I first heard of Peter Ruckman about the time I was attending HAC (76-81). I thought he was a very intelligent man. But after listening to him a few times, I though he was one of the nastiest SOBs I had ever come across and never wanted anything to do with him. But I ran across a few people who...

Actually, I think you may be right. I believe several students were expelled in the seventies for promoting KJV onlyism. I'm not sure I know how to articulate this, but if the KJV was (always) the only inspired text for 20th century believers, how come so many didn't know about it until the...