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Only God can save and only He knows whether a profession is real, agreed. The content of the presentation is our responsibility, otherwise the baptismal regenerationists and Arians are doing the gospel just fine too, after all, God will sort it out.

Expound please. I just began a series on the parables and literally just taught this to my adults. I think I know where you’re gout, but don’t want to put words in your mouth.

This qualification is worthy of note, and I figured as much. My hair-splitting and quibbling was over the “pray this prayer with me” emphasis as a potentially misleading method of presenting the gospel. I’m glad he has continued to carry the evangelistic mantle of his dad, just not thrilled with...

I respect and admire your desire to protect the most vulnerable and innocent among us, but asking “what if” questions like people’s propensity to lust in church iver children is too narrowly focused because there can be all sorts of inappropriate and sinful thoughts in people’s minds anytime and...

I think it’s a fair inference, but I have read some of his FB stuff, and he seems to generally rail against a lot of of the things that IFBXers are known for, so I took it that he was speaking out against the occasionally over-authoritarian and patriarchal emphasis in IFB-land that says “boys...

Very insightful thoughts in the majority of your post, but what leads you to that conclusion about Shifflet from that short excerpt?

Why do you ask? I know you preach the gospel, so what specifically are you asking?

Sounds a bit flippant, unless you don’t care about warning against heterodoxy’s impact (not that Franklin’s position or practice is heterodox).

I’m very thankful for Graham and his Ministry and influence as well. My criticism, mild as it is, is certainly not like the He Gets Us stuff. I’m just concerned that his presentation in such a short span can be understood by the person hearing him that a prayer saves a person. Like you said, he...

Ahhh, got it. If you’d only said you were a woman I might have picked up on the snark, but you threw me a curve with the addition of the unmarried thing. I was assuming too much with my church discipline comment, since you correctly pointed out that the first stages of discipline are to be...

The article below is a bit dated, but the criticism is still fair game for our discussion, based on what his content is still currently running… Responding to Franklin Graham’s Fox News Commercial So, though I am not reformed nor a 5 pointer, I somewhat sympathize with this man’s critique. In...

“That bravado disappeared as soon as rounds started coming his way”—said by Salinas (the hero in the OP video) about the cowardly murderer who stalked helpless victims (and Teslas). Right on, Mr Salinas!

Nope, AverageJoe never said that. Biscuit did in post# 101. And I believe his point there was to rightly rail against lenient sentencing policies of judges. Likewise I believe he was speaking against such leniency especially for offenders who are/were unrepentant.

I’m seriously curious, what does your gender and marital status have to with knowing if discipline was conducted? 🤦‍♂️ Sad, really sad. I think I’ve told this story on here before, but it falls in line with the rockstar preacher culture you speak of. I was a young impressionable budding...

Thank you for elaborating Jo. If these were credible reports, as you say, were they ever reported to the pastor and leadership of the church? Was church discipline ever brought to any of the pastor’s children, particularly the incidents of exposure and sexually deviant behavior?

Thank you for sharing part of your faith journey and an unimaginable valley that God brought you through. I’ll share something in a bit (though nowhere near your tragic circumstances) about a faith healer I encountered while going door to door years ago, but I’m pressed for time right now so...

And this dude’s theme undoubtedly is…

This thread was started, ostensibly, to discuss details of how to deal with the problem of abuse in churches. Simply saying “made advances” isn’t particularly helpful in understanding specifically what errors or sins are being glossed over or tolerated. The vagueness of such assertions don’t...