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In this context Jesus is speaking to an adult, not an infant or a baby in the womb. Not one place in scripture does anything speak to infants in the context only adults, that’s very clear no grey area. You cannot assume who he’s speaking to when it’s very clear he’s speaking to adults.

I completely understand every word you are saying. All I’m saying is, I believe his children so any discomfort, I could care less. I do not give someone like this the benefit of the doubt. He sure acts tough behind that pulpit. And with his children and wife. But I have yet to see a video of...

According to at least two of his children this is how they were raised. I have absolutely no sympathy for this man who beat his wife and children raising them in a cult. Nope none, I believe his children. He’s guilty.

Yep I hope he was treated exactly like that.

That’s funny, That’s funny, nope not one. I’m not diagnosing him. I’m saying, whatever discomfort he’s receiving, he deserves that and so much more…..so much more. No sympathy.

Eh, he deserves it. Again, no sympathy.

If only one child were saying these abuses happened and the other two came running to the father’s defense than I’d be saying, I don’t know who to believe. But when you have two or three saying this, in my opinion, something was terribly wrong.

I have no sympathy for this man. If there’s one thing that gets me fighting mad is for a grown man to act tough with a teenage boy much less hit them and their mother. For others to somehow defend him is beyond me. If he sounded scared, I’d like to tell him, it doesn’t feel good does it?

Correct.

According to his children he beat his wife. I have no sympathy for this so called man, who only hits women and children. I’m sure he hasn’t tried wipping a grown man on the streets or the homosexuals he preached against, with that cord his son has talked about.

According to his children he beat his wife. I have no sympathy for this so called man, who only hits women and children.

If something is weird, its because it is. If something seems off its because it is. I’ve been in more than a few situations when something seemed off about it. Not the next day or a week later, maybe 6 months or even a few years later the pastor was arrested or the layman was arrested...

I agree. I’ve learned if something seems weird, it’s because it is. If something seems off, it’s because it is. Trust your gut.

I don’t know. I haven’t talked to every one to throw them all in the same basket. I couldn’t say…..

It’s obvious to me bc there’s no list of clothing that God seems to have left it to the believer to decide, not me to decide for others or for pastors to decide for members. It’s that simple.

Well if that it I’d say that pretty good.

What makes him creepy?

Well, Trump bought her anyway.

No no no, Vivek 2028. Vance sounds like a politician to me. I don’t believe he’d be willing to make the drastic changes and decisions that our country needs. I believe he’d stay well within the political norm.

Sad really.