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Wesley believed, conscientiously, that it did. Let every man be persuaded in his own mind. Like Luther, Wesley, et al, I don't believe what I do because of Calvin, MacArthur, or any other person, influential or otherwise. ☺️

And Wesley didn't because it did.

These items were seized at US border more than fentanyl, federal customs data shows.

I was a young fella and fairly immature Christian just figuring out how the church thang worked. That sign had lights in it that would change to reflect the amount of progress towards the projected goal of giving to missions. Pretty high-tech, eh? 😁 All things being equal, the concept was a...

There's a story behind this 3-ft wide and 5 ft tall sign. Years ago it used to hang in our sanctuary, and the removal of it is the stuff of those things that cause Church splits, lol.

Do you remember Post number 126? I'm not telling you that all ifb churches are good and free from abuse and authoritarianism, and I'm not saying that any good ifb churches are in your area. What I am saying is, unless you live in an absolute vacuum, there are typically churches near people that...

You seem a bit prone to hyperbolic misrepresentation. I never said anything of the sort about "it's always the people". I implied some people perceive slight when none is intended. Let me give you an example. One of my favorite tv preachers was Adrian Rogers. He had a way of saying sharp...

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And relative old-timers remember it fairly well😉

I get that you've had some/many bad experiences, and I've related just as many good ones in my locale. Do you ever read Amazon (or other digital) reviews? It's a fairly well known phenomenon that people are apt to give detailed reviews on stuff when they perceive they've been burnt...

As generally true as that (performance) component of salary discussion is, your low-ball figure of a salary is part of many IFB churches problem mentality on this subject..."keep'em hungry".

Guess what the nature of the church he's talking about is? KJVo, mannagawd syndrome, etc. These churches are relatively easy to spot on their webpage info, or a quick visit. Just like when you buy a car, you have to do your homework before you go to sign the papers. Buyer beware.

Ransom answered that in his last response, though he fat-fingered the spelling, lol... bi-vocational.

Yes, conformity to social expectations shouldn't be considered the same thing as obedience to the Lord. Many folk confuse allegiance to the cult of personality to being a good Christian. But my conscience is captive to the word ultimately, not manmade followship. I will admit that in my young...

The level of education that typifies pastoral requirements is at a baccalaureate level. Would you pay any other professional with a bachelor's degree 30k? His wife's state of employment should have nothing to do with what he should be paid.

Ok, maybe your area is saturated with group-think, lol. I have traveled a lot on vacation and every time I do I go to church. I have been to many different types of Baptist churches. Some were cut from the same cloth as what you're talking about, some were contemporary, others were a little...

So it seems like you do know the answer to your own question, then. Those who are apt to be gullible enough to believe that IFBs (of the "mannagawd" stripe) are the only true church aren't going to look where they can escape the trap that they have placed themselves in. Ekklesian gave some sound...

I snuffed as a kid. My dad found my stash. He didn't berate me or punish me. He simply said " I know you've been snuffing son, when that stuff rots your lip off. Don't ask me to pay for the doctor to put your face back together". 😳 That did the trick. No more snuffing from that day forward...

Where in the Bible do you find these principles for pay?

No, your assumptions seem very flawed about what to look for in a church. None of the independent Baptist churches in my area, except possibly one, follow anything close to the Hyles model. And that's just the independent Baptist ones. Broaden your horizons a bit. Independent Baptists don't...