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  1. SAWBONES

    A New Lesson on KJVO Controversy.

    Good job, FSSL. A very well written and thorough yet succinct review of the errors, problems and exaggerations of a false doctrine that unfortunately plagues the hearts and minds of a certain group of Christians who prefer to try to believe in a simplistic fable instead of wrestling with the...
  2. SAWBONES

    What is Providential Preservation and where is it found in the Scriptures?

    When KJVOists want to assert the supposed supremacy of the KJV, then all KJV editions are essentially the same, and whatever differences there may be between editions "really don't matter". When the "PCE" KJVOists (all three of them) want to assert the supremacy and perfection of the "PCE" over...
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    Is KJVO a mental disorder?

    It didn't seem so. I took your assertion to mean that one might ultimately consider Christianity and its cardinal doctrines to be no more substantial than the doctrines identified with KJVOism. If you meant instead that there are many false doctrines within Christendom, and that KJVOism is...
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    Is KJVO a mental disorder?

    There's no such thing as a "MV crowd". There is a group of nuts called "KJVOists". They like to refer to everybody else (the other 99.99% of Christians) who aren't KJVO as the "MV crowd". This is rather like the "flat-earthers" referring to the rest of the world's population who don't...
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    Is KJVO a mental disorder?

    Not in the least degree. Our faith is based on the integrity, reliability and power of an infallible, omnipotent and ultimately benevolent Person, and said faith is acquired through revelation, that is, the direct and incontrovertible action of the Holy Spirit in our hearts convincing us of the...
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    Is KJVO a mental disorder?

    Speaking from a clinical perspective, it's not a "mental disorder" in the formal sense, but it is an aberration in thinking that has underpinnings of immature, dishonest motivation (desiring then choosing to believe a lie for the sake of unmet personal emotional needs) and includes significant...
  7. SAWBONES

    The capricious interpretation of Bibleprotector and his claims to KJVOism

    Well, at least you hold a reasonable position in not making "PCE"/KJVO-ism fundamental to faith! But I really think you "need to get out more" (as the saying goes), as your concepts about classes of Christians are quite insular (no pun intended).
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    The capricious interpretation of Bibleprotector and his claims to KJVOism

    Yet those errors (misrepresentation, deception and lying) have been honestly and accurately pointed up (by posters here and on other Bible-related discussion boards) as being made ever-so-frequently by those who espouse KJVO positions! These include such things as: - partial quotations of...
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    The capricious interpretation of Bibleprotector and his claims to KJVOism

    So, you're saying that rejection of KJVOism, including the idea of PCE-perfection, is ultimately demonic?
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    The capricious interpretation of Bibleprotector and his claims to KJVOism

    If that's a conclusion, it's not an explanation. Why, in the perfection of God's written word in English as supposedly embodied within the "PCE", should lower case spirit refer to God in some cases when at other places the capitalized Spirit is seemingly correct instead? That is what's in view...
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    The capricious interpretation of Bibleprotector and his claims to KJVOism

    Over & over, ad nauseum, there simply are no "enemies of the KJB". If you consider that Christians who don't believe in the ultimate perfection of your "PCE" are "enemies of the KJB", you're simply wrong You seem to prejudge everything. I'm not aiming to condemn you, merely trying to...
  12. SAWBONES

    The capricious interpretation of Bibleprotector and his claims to KJVOism

    That's not in view here, merely the use of "Ghost" vs. "Spirit", which in this case are synonyms. You seem to keep avoiding any sort of direct, specific explanation about any supposed difference. Presumption on your part, followed by gobbledegook. None of those points are at issue. Whatever...
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    The capricious interpretation of Bibleprotector and his claims to KJVOism

    So if Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit denote the same Person, they're synonyms, and your insistence that they're "not the same" becomes yet another "distinction without a difference" argument. To me, this seems unimportant, but I'd be interested in how and why you seem to believe the distinction...
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    The capricious interpretation of Bibleprotector and his claims to KJVOism

    You avoided giving a clear answer. Obviously, the words Ghost and Spirit are different words, yet they're synonyms. Do you believe otherwise? If so, please elaborate. Lord, Christ and Jesus aren't synonyms, though Lord, as most often used in the Bible, might refer to any of the Persons of the...
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    The capricious interpretation of Bibleprotector and his claims to KJVOism

    I gather from the above posts that a certain number of KJVO types apparently believe that the words "Holy Ghost", "Holy Spirit", "Spirit of God", "Spirit of Jesus", "his spirit" (when referring to God's spirit), and "my spirit" (God, referring to His spirit), as they appear in the KJV, are not...
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    The capricious interpretation of Bibleprotector and his claims to KJVOism

    Aw, sure you can, FSSL! You can download it from "Bibleprotector's" website, or buy it from him in a nasty paperback edition!  :o Otherwise, you're outta luck, because none of the KJV editions from Collins and other older Bible publishers which Matthew Verschuur likes to describe as being...
  17. SAWBONES

    Inspired Translations

    Every so often, Mitex' sense that nobody respects the Scriptures as much as he does bubbles to the surface and gets the better of his more reasonable nature, and then he posts stuff like the above.
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    Inspired Translations

    So, the KJV is once again held up as the one absolutely perfect standard, and one who argues honestly and convincingly, with evidence, in favor of reference to the original language sources and against the superstition of KJV perfection in the study of the Scriptures is called a variety of...
  19. SAWBONES

    The Best Way To BURN A Catholic Bible PerVersion!

    ======================== Why, that would be tantamount to imagining something less than thoroughgoing honesty and integrity on the part of some KJVOists!  :P
  20. SAWBONES

    Naughty... a word that needs updating

    Good covers a lot of ground in meaning. Naughty nowadays refers only to the smallest and most trivial, inoffensive fraction of everything within the spectrum of "not good". The point is that the modern meanings of naughty in the KJV altogether fail to convey what is actually in the text. Evil...
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