Calling out the "Christian" liars and hypocrites on this forum

The Rogue Tomato

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Ransom (and FSSL)

Ransom, you may be very well educated, and it shows, but you are one of the least fruitful "Christians" I have witnessed on this board.  The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.  You are absolutely brilliant when instructing on facts and history, but it's almost always in the context of smugly correcting someone, treating the person as if he's an uneducated fool. Yes, this is the "fighting" forum, but your tiresome and persistent patronizing remarks aren't fighting.  You're just being conceited and rude.

In fact, most of your posts on this forum are just impertinent quips intended to insult. I even once said it seems like a strange choice to make you a moderator, when all your short responses to peoples' posts seems to imply their posts are inferior and worthless, with the subtext that "the forum would be better off if you never posted anything".  I have never seen ANY evidence of kindness, goodness, or gentleness in how you post, only a sense of smug superiority. 

In those rare cases when you're wrong, you simply deflect, attack or lie about it.  Granted you don't lie often, because you're most often factually right.  But case and point, the whole controversy over nudity.  You DID say, "Why are you changing the subject from nudity to fine art?"  Tim just challenged me to post nudity, not MOVIE nudity, which makes it obvious that you never said, "Why did you switch the subject from MOVIE nudity to fine art nudity".  If he had asked for movie nudity, why on earth would I comply by posting the statue of David, or the Sistine chapel?

But here's the worst part. You and FSSL didn't complain about the fine art nudity when it was the statue of David or photos of Adam and Eve on the Sistine chapel, even though those images were of total nudity. 

I predicted in the post including the fine art photography studio picture that the picture would get deleted ("let's see how long this will last").  I only posted it to expose Ransom's hypocrisy.  Ransom's "changing the subject" retort was just his typical smug reply.

Ransom, YOU were the one changing the subject. Just because it's fine art doesn't mean it's not nudity.  The real difference was that the previous pictures were statues and paintings and the "offensive" picture was a live woman.  But they were all "fine art". If "fine art" makes a nude picture okay, then nobody should ever have complained about the fine art photography picture.

The fact that FSSL blew up about it demonstrated that Ransom was making a false dichotomy.  Of course, FSSL didn't just remove the picture.  He had to remove ALL the evidence of hypocrisy by deleting the whole thread. 

And then I get banned because I refused to apologize for posting "pornography" (according to FSSL)?  Perhaps you, Ransom, should explain to FSSL the difference between pornography and nudity in fine art. 

By the way, here's a quote from the page where the picture demonstrating lighting in nude photography is located. Doesn't look to me like they're talking about pornography.

LINDSAY ADLER ? FINE ART NUDE VIDEO SERIES (it's a video series about fine art photography)

Part 1
01 ? Introduction / Posing Fundamentals
02 ? Five Posing Tips
03 ? Five Cautions
04 ? Five Go-To Poses

Part 2
01 ? Lighting Essentials ? The Fundamentals
02 ? Lighting Essentials ? 10 Go-To Lighting Setups
03 ? Lighting Essentials ? 10 Go-To Lighting Setups (continued).

Part 3
01 ? Creativity
02 ? Creativity Continued


Anyone interested in seeing which picture was "pornographic" can go to the site and look for the "Subject's Position to Light" example.

https://www.slrlounge.com/lindsay-adler-fine-art-nude-video-series-review/

If you delete the above link, all you'll be doing is trying to prevent anyone from seeing PROOF that what you called "pornography" isn't pornography at all. You will expose your lying and hypocritical character.

All this is to say that you (Ransom and FSSL) are liars and hypocrites, which is why I have you both on ignore.  I know I wasn't banned for that picture.  I was banned for standing up to you, FSSL.  I suspect you were still butt-hurt from having your butt handed to you in the discussion on the canon, and my refusal to apologize pushed you over the edge. 


ALAYMAN

Yes, I have you on ignore, but I can't help seeing some of the things you say when you're quoted.

Get off your high horse, you hypocrite and whitewashed tomb.  The Bible does not say "Those who watch movies like Deadpool shall not enter the kingdom of heaven", but it does say liars won't get in.  And you're the biggest liar of them all here.  Determining who is a true Christian is above my pay grade, but if there was a hell pool, I'd put my money on the fact that you're going to hell unless you repent of your Pharisaical attitude elevating outward appearance above the Spirit, your pride and your commitment to lying about everything that shows you're wrong about something.  That's a pool I'd be happy to lose, but hey, I'm just playing the odds. 

For example, you started a thread supposedly regarding an article promoting marijuana for Christians. I correctly stated that the author was not promoting marijuana. Then you pulled a quote from the article NOT written by the author to "prove" I was wrong.  The quote you pulled was from a list of competing opinions, and right next to it was a another quote about how Christians should NOT indulge in marijuana. 

The author was simply doing the proper job of a journalist and reporting competing views.

Yet you continued to lie for pages and pages about it, even denying that my statement was about the author of the article, when it was plain for all to see that I said "the author".  All they had to do is look at my post.

I've also seen recent examples of your lying nature in exchanges between you and aleshanee.

Due mostly to your pride and inability to admit when you're wrong, you lie like it's your native language, even when presented with proof you were wrong.  Coming back to Deadpool, enjoying a movie because you can overlook brief scenes that you would prefer not to see vs. being a pride-filled Pharisee who lives and breathes bragimony, lies and accusations of the brethren as a way of life -- which of those do you think matters more to the Lord?  Personally, I'd be more inclined to think you are Spirit-led if you enjoyed Deadpool and stopped lying and accusing the brethren based on outside appearances. Please tell me how a pathological liar like you shall enter the kingdom of heaven?


Tarheel Baptist

Another liar, for the same reason ALAYMAN is a liar.  You can never admit you're wrong.  But I've had you on ignore for so long I don't have any recent examples.  I will simply say that you, ALAYMAN, FSSL, Ransom, and a few others have such swelled heads that it would take 4 days for a good suggestion to go in one ear and out the other. 


Conclusion

God WILL humble you folks.  That you can count on, because God said he would.  I don't expect that to happen anytime soon, so I'll just have to keep you all on ignore.

Maybe I just never adequately considered that this isn't really a Christian forum. It's a forum mostly filled with people obsessed with or damaged by HAC.  Maybe it's just the fruit of being current or former IFB(x) to be a pride-filled hypocrite and liar obsessed with the appearance of being holy.  Or maybe that's just the way things are, that there will always be people like you who proudly display all the characteristics Jesus condemned with his "woe to you" lecture.  And some of you are actually pastors and teachers! 

Fortunately, there ARE a number of honest people here.  And they don't engage in bragimony.  They don't focus on outward appearance.  I agree and disagree with them, some of them are rude, and sometimes I'm rude, and sometimes we "fight" about things.  But they're honest and obviously Spirit-led.  They make it worth sticking around.  Unless, of course, you ban me permanently.  But if you do, I will wear it as a badge of honor that I showed honesty is not tolerated on the FFF. 

 
So... Where is the fruit of the Spirit in your post above? Posting a nude picture was not forbearance, gentleness or goodness. Refusing to acknowledge your rash mistake is hardly attempting to live peaceably with others. Try to understand forbearance. I demonstrated it by not banning you entirely and only after giving you an opportunity to apologize for your mistake.

Your imagination is very deluded if you think the canon discussion played to any emotion on this one.

As I clearly said, It was not enough to delete the picture. I had to delete the entire thread because of Tapatalk caching the nude pic.

Don't place nude pictures on the forum. All you needed to do was what you just did. Link to a pic and give a warning that you are sending people to view erotic pictures with awesome lighting.

Hypocrisy is blinding. Those who claim others are hypocrites and liars must first consider the log in their own eye.
 
I assume the appropriate response to the OP is something along the lines of, "So long to you too," right?
 
The Rogue Tomato said:
ALAYMAN

Yes, I have you on ignore, but I can't help seeing some of the things you say when you're quoted.

lol, sure lil buddy.

Thanks again for the rent-free space.
 
LOL - so far, the only replies are from people I have on ignore.  I realize I told ALAYMAN, "Please tell me how a pathological liar like you shall enter the kingdom of heaven?"  But the question was rhetorical. 
 
The Rogue Tomato said:
LOL - so far, the only replies are from people I have on ignore.  I realize I told ALAYMAN, "Please tell me how a pathological liar like you shall enter the kingdom of heaven?"  But the question was rhetorical.

I know you were trying to "prove a point" about the hypocrisy of others when it comes to nudes. I would have deleted the picture or links as well.

Having said that, you shouldn't have been banned for a week. It was a power play. Everyone here knows it.

Ransom, for the most part, does fine as a moderator. He is arrogant. He has always been that way. I don't feel as if I'm as bad as he is.... but I'm close. :) Ransom does lack any "warmth" to him at all. Its just his personality.

FSSL is a sore loser. He's a good man but he's a sore loser. ;)

He made a power play. He has that right I imagine. I think it was wrong.

Alayman and Tarheel are dificult to argue with at times... but we all are. We all feel strongly about what we believe. Its only natural that we all "butt heads" at times.
 
If you ask my opinion.... rsca is the most dishonest poster on the forum....
 
The Rogue Tomato said:
LOL - so far, the only replies are from people I have on ignore.

You mean the people you ranted at in the OP by name?
 
praise_yeshua said:
The Rogue Tomato said:
LOL - so far, the only replies are from people I have on ignore.  I realize I told ALAYMAN, "Please tell me how a pathological liar like you shall enter the kingdom of heaven?"  But the question was rhetorical.

I know you were trying to "prove a point" about the hypocrisy of others when it comes to nudes. I would have deleted the picture or links as well.

Having said that, you shouldn't have been banned for a week. It was a power play. Everyone here knows it.

Ransom, for the most part, does fine as a moderator. He is arrogant. He has always been that way. I don't feel as if I'm as bad as he is.... but I'm close. :) Ransom does lack any "warmth" to him at all. Its just his personality.

FSSL is a sore loser. He's a good man but he's a sore loser. ;)

He made a power play. He has that right I imagine. I think it was wrong.

Alayman and Tarheel are dificult to argue with at times... but we all are. We all feel strongly about what we believe. Its only natural that we all "butt heads" at times.

All his grandstanding amounts to ultimately is "I thank thee I am not as these publicans".  I've NEVER questioned TRTs salvation, ever.  I may disagree with his attitude, beliefs, and habits, thinking they are not fitting Christian virtue and comportment, but never have questioned his salvation.  There's some thick irony there when he calls me the Pharisee (judgmental) but then turns around and calls me lost.
 
praise_yeshua said:
The Rogue Tomato said:
LOL - so far, the only replies are from people I have on ignore.  I realize I told ALAYMAN, "Please tell me how a pathological liar like you shall enter the kingdom of heaven?"  But the question was rhetorical.

I know you were trying to "prove a point" about the hypocrisy of others when it comes to nudes. I would have deleted the picture or links as well.

Having said that, you shouldn't have been banned for a week. It was a power play. Everyone here knows it.

Ransom, for the most part, does fine as a moderator. He is arrogant. He has always been that way. I don't feel as if I'm as bad as he is.... but I'm close. :) Ransom does lack any "warmth" to him at all. Its just his personality.

FSSL is a sore loser. He's a good man but he's a sore loser. ;)

He made a power play. He has that right I imagine. I think it was wrong.

Alayman and Tarheel are dificult to argue with at times... but we all are. We all feel strongly about what we believe. Its only natural that we all "butt heads" at times.

I would have deleted the picture.  I expected the picture to be deleted.  That was my whole point. 

Butting heads is one thing.  I never minded butting heads with Tarheel or ALAYMAN.  But lying for page after page because you refuse to admit you were wrong about something is entirely different, and that I have no tolerance or time for. 

 
Testing 1 2 3.

Well, what do you know about that?  Another lie. 

I just posted a picture and viewed it in Tapatalk.  I deleted the picture, refreshed Tapatalk, and the picture is gone.  It's not sitting in cache anywhere, and it's nowhere to be found on my phone. 

Or maybe FSSL is just too ignorant to know about the "refresh" option even after using Tapatalk for years (I just installed it now to test it). 

And, incidentally, if you delete a picture and a Tapatalk views the post for the first time, the picture won't appear.  That person doesn't even need to refresh, since it never made it to Tapatalk in the first place.  I just demonstrated that in the yoga pants thread.

Oh, what a tangled web you weave...
 
Ahhh. That ignore button isn't working either.

Refreshing empties the cache, silly. You do realize that is not always immediate until reboots.

I had difficulty getting it off Tapatalk. It had to come off immediately. Deleting the thread was the easiest way to handle it. Why is everything a conspiracy with you?

The picture should never have been posted. I took steps so that no one else would see it.
 
Too bad I am on ignore. I am in your town for dinner tonight! Lol
 
I performed one more test.  I posted a picture, viewed it in Tapatalk, which should have placed it in cache.  Then I deleted the picture here in Chrome. 

I used my phone for other things for a while.  When I came back to Tapatalk, the deleted picture was gone.  Not still in cache.  Not remembered in any way shape or form.  Gone.

Knowing how Android works (and I'm sure iOS works similarly), when I used the phone for other things, it suspended Tapatalk.  When I returned to Tapatalk, it had to reload Tapatalk, and when it reloaded, it showed me the LATEST version of the post -- sans picture. 

The only problem with having FSSLiar on ignore is I'll probably never know if he admitted he was wrong and apologized. 
 
I really enjoy this interesting and entertaining thread!  ;)

Reminds me of the establishment vs. outsiders and liberals vs. Pharisee-like, I mean conservative, contentions in today's political process. Instead of changing channels between Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc, I only have to tap on another thread!
 
The Rogue Tomato said:
I performed one more test.  I posted a picture, viewed it in Tapatalk, which should have placed it in cache.  Then I deleted the picture here in Chrome. 

I used my phone for other things for a while.  When I came back to Tapatalk, the deleted picture was gone.  Not still in cache.  Not remembered in any way shape or form.  Gone.

Knowing how Android works (and I'm sure iOS works similarly), when I used the phone for other things, it suspended Tapatalk.  When I returned to Tapatalk, it had to reload Tapatalk, and when it reloaded, it showed me the LATEST version of the post -- sans picture. 

The only problem with having FSSLiar on ignore is I'll probably never know if he admitted he was wrong and apologized.

"And therefore, I'm not the one to blame for posting nudie pics to the forum."
 
It seems...............................well.....................I must say..................................It seems that there are people on here that take this forum.......................................well..... maybe to serious. 

Just sayn!




Do I consider ppl on here friends?.........................I guess, I don't know, but I do have friends that I see in person...............you know? face to face that I take much much more serious than the forum "friends". 

LOL!!
 
Bruh said:
It seems...............................well.....................I must say..................................It seems that there are people on here that take this forum.......................................well..... maybe to serious. 

Just sayn!


Do I consider ppl on here friends?.........................I guess, I don't know, but I do have friends that I see in person...............you know? face to face that I take much much more serious than the forum "friends". 

LOL!!

I have a life, too.  But it was high time someone called people out on their lies, hypocrisy, bragimony, etc.  This is supposed to be a Christian forum.  Unapologetic liars shouldn't belong here.  Unfortunately, one of them runs the forum. 

 
The Rogue Tomato said:
I have a life, too.  But it was high time someone called people out on their lies, hypocrisy, bragimony, etc.  This is supposed to be a Christian forum.  Unapologetic liars shouldn't belong here.  Unfortunately, one of them runs the forum.

"And therefore it's not my fault I posted nude photos to the forum."
 
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