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Sadly Groeschel is gonna take over the property if and when WHBC closes. Groeschel will turn it into a concert hall with flat screens. Good 'ol Tom Vineyard doesn't like Groeschel.
 
AlvinMartinezVoice said:
Sadly Groeschel is gonna take over the property if and when WHBC closes. Groeschel will turn it into a concert hall with flat screens. Good 'ol Tom Vineyard doesn't like Groeschel.

But Trendy Groeschel is better than Creepy Vineyard.
 
TheRealJonStewart said:
AlvinMartinezVoice said:
Sadly Groeschel is gonna take over the property if and when WHBC closes. Groeschel will turn it into a concert hall with flat screens. Good 'ol Tom Vineyard doesn't like Groeschel.

But Trendy Groeschel is better than Creepy Vineyard.

You know, both of those names sound like plants!
 
Walt said:
TheRealJonStewart said:
AlvinMartinezVoice said:
Sadly Groeschel is gonna take over the property if and when WHBC closes. Groeschel will turn it into a concert hall with flat screens. Good 'ol Tom Vineyard doesn't like Groeschel.

But Trendy Groeschel is better than Creepy Vineyard.

You know, both of those names sound like plants!

They do sound like plants, specifically unwanted weeds.
 
Just imagine if Jack Hyles were alive today. He'd put Groeschel on blast at Pastor's School.
 
TheRealJonStewart said:
AlvinMartinezVoice said:
Just imagine if Jack Hyles were alive today. He'd put Groeschel on blast at Pastor's School.

Trendy Groeschel wouldn't care what Machiavellian Hyles says.
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Larry Brown is considered the Gallagher of IFB Comedy as Brown will smash televisions, CCM Records, DVD's etc.

Tony Hutson is considered Don Rickles of IFB as he's sharp with his tongue and will not shy away from criticizing IFB Colleges for having "plays" and he's doing a stand up comic routine including sermons when he and Brown are on the Guest Speaker Circuit.

True story, Jack Trieber took out his staff and Hutson to a Golden Corral in San Francisco and Hutson literally closed down the place and the next day in his sermon critiqued the Gold Corral as only a two star restaurant where as the one's in Tennessee are much better.
 
AlvinMartinezVoice said:
Larry Brown is considered the Gallagher of IFB Comedy as Brown will smash televisions, CCM Records, DVD's etc.

Tony Hutson is considered Don Rickles of IFB as he's sharp with his tongue and will not shy away from criticizing IFB Colleges for having "plays" and he's doing a stand up comic routine including sermons when he and Brown are on the Guest Speaker Circuit.

True story, Jack Trieber took out his staff and Hutson to a Golden Corral in San Francisco and Hutson literally closed down the place and the next day in his sermon critiqued the Gold Corral as only a two star restaurant where as the one's in Tennessee are much better.

But none of these men were invited to speak in Pope Chappell's church. Pope Chappell is the greatest IFB ever known in the history of mankind. No one comes close to the spiritual greatness of Pope Chappell, not even close. Machiavellian Hyles got nothing on Pope Chappell.
 
Hyles wore sunglasses when he preached and was referred to as the "Pope" and all the great popular names in the IFB world still revere Hyles. Tony Hutson calls Hyles and Lester Rolloff his "Godfathers" and he has a Hall of Fame at his church and Hyles and Curtis Hutson are at the top of the list. Jack Trieber and Larry Brown considered Hyles their mentor and refer to him as better than Billy Graham and criticized Graham for having "Fake Celebrity Christian Friends" sort of like false teacher Carl Lentz does today. And of course OBC's own Caleb Garraway credits a Jack Hyles sermon he heard as a boy for his inspiration to be an evangelist and considers FBC Hammond as "Yankee Stadium".
 
AlvinMartinezVoice said:
Hyles wore sunglasses when he preached and was referred to as the "Pope" and all the great popular names in the IFB world still revere Hyles. Tony Hutson calls Hyles and Lester Rolloff his "Godfathers" and he has a Hall of Fame at his church and Hyles and Curtis Hutson are at the top of the list. Jack Trieber and Larry Brown considered Hyles their mentor and refer to him as better than Billy Graham and criticized Graham for having "Fake Celebrity Christian Friends" sort of like false teacher Carl Lentz does today. And of course OBC's own Caleb Garraway credits a Jack Hyles sermon he heard as a boy for his inspiration to be an evangelist and considers FBC Hammond as "Yankee Stadium".

Funny how you never mention Pope Chappell in your response. Pope Chappell is a Fox News contributor. Machiavellian Hyles wasn't considered a conservative back then when he allowed black kids to ride his church buses in the 60s and 70s.
 
TheRealJonStewart said:
AlvinMartinezVoice said:
Hyles wore sunglasses when he preached and was referred to as the "Pope" and all the great popular names in the IFB world still revere Hyles. Tony Hutson calls Hyles and Lester Rolloff his "Godfathers" and he has a Hall of Fame at his church and Hyles and Curtis Hutson are at the top of the list. Jack Trieber and Larry Brown considered Hyles their mentor and refer to him as better than Billy Graham and criticized Graham for having "Fake Celebrity Christian Friends" sort of like false teacher Carl Lentz does today. And of course OBC's own Caleb Garraway credits a Jack Hyles sermon he heard as a boy for his inspiration to be an evangelist and considers FBC Hammond as "Yankee Stadium".

Funny how you never mention Pope Chappell in your response. Pope Chappell is a Fox News contributor. Machiavellian Hyles wasn't considered a conservative back then when he allowed black kids to ride his church buses in the 60s and 70s.

We have been down this road before. Hyles kept a lid on black kids riding the buses. If you had too many you were counseled. A white person coming for salvation and baptism was automatically a member and a black person was not a member.  When I arrived at HAC in 1975 it was all white school.
 
In actuality one of the first IFB pastors to embrace minorities was Jack Trieber as Treiber was and still is all for foreign missions and bringing in foreign converts. One of those was the famous IFB singer Alvin Martinez. Trieber also has DJ "Fatty Arbuckle" Uson an IFB comedian who's performed at the Improv and credits Tony Hutson and Robin Williams as his mentors/inspiration. Trieber, a disciple of Hyles, was all for minorities coming into the IFB churches and colleges.
 
AlvinMartinezVoice said:
In actuality one of the first IFB pastors to embrace minorities was Jack Trieber as Treiber was and still is all for foreign missions and bringing in foreign converts. One of those was the famous IFB singer Alvin Martinez. Trieber also has DJ "Fatty Arbuckle" Uson an IFB comedian who's performed at the Improv and credits Tony Hutson and Robin Williams as his mentors/inspiration. Trieber, a disciple of Hyles, was all for minorities coming into the IFB churches and colleges.

Alvin Martinez isn't on staff at North Valley Baptist anymore, he was fired.
 
TheRealJonStewart said:
AlvinMartinezVoice said:
In actuality one of the first IFB pastors to embrace minorities was Jack Trieber as Treiber was and still is all for foreign missions and bringing in foreign converts. One of those was the famous IFB singer Alvin Martinez. Trieber also has DJ "Fatty Arbuckle" Uson an IFB comedian who's performed at the Improv and credits Tony Hutson and Robin Williams as his mentors/inspiration. Trieber, a disciple of Hyles, was all for minorities coming into the IFB churches and colleges.

Alvin Martinez isn't on staff at North Valley Baptist anymore, he was fired.

Better tell the church as they still have him listed.

http://nvbc.org/staff.php
 
Alvin Martinez is too valuable to Jack Trieber plus Trieber gets kickbacks on Alvin's records and when he goes on tour. NVBC did lose IFB Comedian DJ "Fatty Arbuckle" Uson who now is Assistant and in charge of the comedy/youth skits/events like he was at NVBC.
 
AlvinMartinezVoice said:
Alvin Martinez is too valuable to Jack Trieber plus Trieber gets kickbacks on Alvin's records and when he goes on tour. NVBC did lose IFB Comedian DJ "Fatty Arbuckle" Uson who now is Assistant and in charge of the comedy/youth skits/events like he was at NVBC.

Alvin Martinez isn't valuable, all he does is sing.
 
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