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There are seven words that have all but destroyed the concept of personal holiness.  It is the drop phrase of the luck-warm, the calling-card of the carnal, and the sound-bite of the backslidden.  These seven words are the most dangerous words a Christian can utter. 

"I don't see anything wrong with it." 


1.  It is dangerous because it starts with "I". Never start with yourself.  Always consider every thing in light of a HOLY God.

2.  It is dangerous because it is based on human sight.  "...don't see...".  The time of the Judges was a time of utter spiritual chaos and unspeakable acts done in the name of God.  What philosophy produced this sad chapter "...every man did that which was right in his own eyes." 

3.  It is dangerous because activity is deemed acceptable because of the perceived absence of a negative instead of the overwhelming presence of a positive.  "...anything wrong with it."  Carnal Christians always wish to put separated saints on the defensive by expecting us to prove what is "wrong" with their worldly activity and carnal compromise.  Sorry.  Nothing EVER should be accepted based on the absence of a negative.  Ball back in your court.  What is right with it?  How does it bring glory and honor to God?  Paul wrote under divine inspiration to the CARNAL church at Corinth:  1 Corinthians 10:31  Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

My experience is this:  carnality cannot be reasoned with.  I stand in awe at what a worldly Christian can rationalize as acceptable.  God's holiness is not only a forgotten concept, but one much despised.  Sad...

So...Rock Out!  Shimmy and shake for Jesus.  Swoon over your "Jesus is my Boyfriend" songs.  Beat your drums and dance around your golden calf.  Defend your shaggy guitar heroes as "good Christians".  Jam for Jesus.  Look down your nose at those who don't -- declare them "irrelevant" and "out dated".    Go for it!

Does the Bible contain commands and principles that guide us away from CCM?  Absolutely.  Am I inclined to argue these points on this forum.  Nope.  Pearls before swine....

 
Frag said:
There are seven words that have all but destroyed the concept of personal holiness.  It is the drop phrase of the luck-warm, the calling-card of the carnal, and the sound-bite of the backslidden.  These seven words are the most dangerous words a Christian can utter. 

"I don't see anything wrong with it." 


1.  It is dangerous because it starts with "I". Never start with yourself.  Always consider every thing in light of a HOLY God.

2.  It is dangerous because it is based on human sight.  "...don't see...".  The time of the Judges was a time of utter spiritual chaos and unspeakable acts done in the name of God.  What philosophy produced this sad chapter "...every man did that which was right in his own eyes." 

3.  It is dangerous because activity is deemed acceptable because of the perceived absence of a negative instead of the overwhelming presence of a positive.  "...anything wrong with it."  Carnal Christians always wish to put separated saints on the defensive by expecting us to prove what is "wrong" with their worldly activity and carnal compromise.  Sorry.  Nothing EVER should be accepted based on the absence of a negative.  Ball back in your court.  What is right with it?  How does it bring glory and honor to God?  Paul wrote under divine inspiration to the CARNAL church at Corinth:  1 Corinthians 10:31  Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

My experience is this:  carnality cannot be reasoned with.  I stand in awe at what a worldly Christian can rationalize as acceptable.  God's holiness is not only a forgotten concept, but one much despised.  Sad...

So...Rock Out!  Shimmy and shake for Jesus.  Swoon over your "Jesus is my Boyfriend" songs.  Beat your drums and dance around your golden calf.  Defend your shaggy guitar heroes as "good Christians".  Jam for Jesus.  Look down your nose at those who don't -- declare them "irrelevant" and "out dated".    Go for it!

Does the Bible contain commands and principles that guide us away from CCM?  Absolutely.  Am I inclined to argue these points on this forum.  Nope.  Pearls before swine....
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Now you know why folks don't argue with you. See bold statement above :)
 
Mathew Ward said:
Frag said:
There are seven words that have all but destroyed the concept of personal holiness.  It is the drop phrase of the luck-warm, the calling-card of the carnal, and the sound-bite of the backslidden.  These seven words are the most dangerous words a Christian can utter. 

"I don't see anything wrong with it." 


1.  It is dangerous because it starts with "I". Never start with yourself.  Always consider every thing in light of a HOLY God.

2.  It is dangerous because it is based on human sight.  "...don't see...".  The time of the Judges was a time of utter spiritual chaos and unspeakable acts done in the name of God.  What philosophy produced this sad chapter "...every man did that which was right in his own eyes." 

3.  It is dangerous because activity is deemed acceptable because of the perceived absence of a negative instead of the overwhelming presence of a positive.  "...anything wrong with it."  Carnal Christians always wish to put separated saints on the defensive by expecting us to prove what is "wrong" with their worldly activity and carnal compromise.  Sorry.  Nothing EVER should be accepted based on the absence of a negative.  Ball back in your court.  What is right with it?  How does it bring glory and honor to God?  Paul wrote under divine inspiration to the CARNAL church at Corinth:  1 Corinthians 10:31  Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

My experience is this:  carnality cannot be reasoned with.  I stand in awe at what a worldly Christian can rationalize as acceptable.  God's holiness is not only a forgotten concept, but one much despised.  Sad...

So...Rock Out!  Shimmy and shake for Jesus.  Swoon over your "Jesus is my Boyfriend" songs.  Beat your drums and dance around your golden calf.  Defend your shaggy guitar heroes as "good Christians".  Jam for Jesus.  Look down your nose at those who don't -- declare them "irrelevant" and "out dated".    Go for it!

Does the Bible contain commands and principles that guide us away from CCM?  Absolutely.  Am I inclined to argue these points on this forum.  Nope.  Pearls before swine....
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Now you know why folks don't argue with you. See bold statement above :)
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I hate to admit it, but that actually made me laugh.....
 
Frag said:
There are seven words that have all but destroyed the concept of personal holiness. "
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"My standards are way higher than yours"?

"Those Pharisees actually knew something about righteousness"?

"When are you gonna sort your socks?"

"Real Christians don't listen to n*gger music"?

"Frag is so much holier than thou"?
 
admin said:
"It's not my preference."
"I don't like it."
"Therefore, it is wrong for everyone else."
"Eventhough I cannot point to Scripture, I see 'principles' and 'concepts' that give me comfort in making my preferences legitimate."

We all know that the music in a church is ultimately from the preference of the pastor.
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7 words, admin.....get with it!  8)
 
Ransom said:
Frag said:
There are seven words that have all but destroyed the concept of personal holiness. "
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"My standards are way higher than yours"?

"Those Pharisees actually knew something about righteousness"?

"When are you gonna sort your socks?"

"Real Christians don't listen to n*gger music"?

"Frag is so much holier than thou"?
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So owned....
 
Frag said:
There are seven words that have all but destroyed the concept of personal holiness.  It is the drop phrase of the luck-warm, the calling-card of the carnal, and the sound-bite of the backslidden.  These seven words are the most dangerous words a Christian can utter. 

"I don't see anything wrong with it." 


1.  It is dangerous because it starts with "I". Never start with yourself.  Always consider every thing in light of a HOLY God.

2.  It is dangerous because it is based on human sight.  "...don't see...".  The time of the Judges was a time of utter spiritual chaos and unspeakable acts done in the name of God.  What philosophy produced this sad chapter "...every man did that which was right in his own eyes." 

3.  It is dangerous because activity is deemed acceptable because of the perceived absence of a negative instead of the overwhelming presence of a positive.  "...anything wrong with it."  Carnal Christians always wish to put separated saints on the defensive by expecting us to prove what is "wrong" with their worldly activity and carnal compromise.  Sorry.  Nothing EVER should be accepted based on the absence of a negative.  Ball back in your court.  What is right with it?  How does it bring glory and honor to God?  Paul wrote under divine inspiration to the CARNAL church at Corinth:  1 Corinthians 10:31  Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

My experience is this:  carnality cannot be reasoned with.  I stand in awe at what a worldly Christian can rationalize as acceptable.  God's holiness is not only a forgotten concept, but one much despised.  Sad...

So...Rock Out!  Shimmy and shake for Jesus.  Swoon over your "Jesus is my Boyfriend" songs.  Beat your drums and dance around your golden calf.  Defend your shaggy guitar heroes as "good Christians".  Jam for Jesus.  Look down your nose at those who don't -- declare them "irrelevant" and "out dated".    Go for it!

Does the Bible contain commands and principles that guide us away from CCM?  Absolutely.  Am I inclined to argue these points on this forum.  Nope.  Pearls before swine....
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What did Jesus say to the pharisees about their conceited self-righteousness? They sure thought they were holier than anyone else. Reminds me of fragster.

By the way, I was talking to an Amish man today and by his standards you are extremely carnal and worldly. You are not supposed to have a zipper in your pants, only buttons. No belts in your pants, only suspenders. And on and on... Just like Frag!
 
Frag said:
There are seven words that have all but destroyed the concept of personal holiness.  It is the drop phrase of the luck-warm, the calling-card of the carnal, and the sound-bite of the backslidden.  These seven words are the most dangerous words a Christian can utter. 

"I don't see anything wrong with it." 


1.  It is dangerous because it starts with "I". Never start with yourself.  Always consider every thing in light of a HOLY God.

2.  It is dangerous because it is based on human sight.  "...don't see...".  The time of the Judges was a time of utter spiritual chaos and unspeakable acts done in the name of God.  What philosophy produced this sad chapter "...every man did that which was right in his own eyes." 

3.  It is dangerous because activity is deemed acceptable because of the perceived absence of a negative instead of the overwhelming presence of a positive.  "...anything wrong with it."  Carnal Christians always wish to put separated saints on the defensive by expecting us to prove what is "wrong" with their worldly activity and carnal compromise.  Sorry.  Nothing EVER should be accepted based on the absence of a negative.  Ball back in your court.  What is right with it?  How does it bring glory and honor to God?  Paul wrote under divine inspiration to the CARNAL church at Corinth:  1 Corinthians 10:31  Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

My experience is this:  carnality cannot be reasoned with.  I stand in awe at what a worldly Christian can rationalize as acceptable.  God's holiness is not only a forgotten concept, but one much despised.  Sad...

So...Rock Out!  Shimmy and shake for Jesus.  Swoon over your "Jesus is my Boyfriend" songs.  Beat your drums and dance around your golden calf.  Defend your shaggy guitar heroes as "good Christians".  Jam for Jesus.  Look down your nose at those who don't -- declare them "irrelevant" and "out dated".    Go for it!

Does the Bible contain commands and principles that guide us away from CCM?  Absolutely.  Am I inclined to argue these points on this forum.  Nope.  Pearls before swine....
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Colossians 3:17...you're welcome!
 
T-Bone said:
Frag said:
There are seven words that have all but destroyed the concept of personal holiness.  It is the drop phrase of the luck-warm, the calling-card of the carnal, and the sound-bite of the backslidden.  These seven words are the most dangerous words a Christian can utter. 

"I don't see anything wrong with it." 


1.  It is dangerous because it starts with "I". Never start with yourself.  Always consider every thing in light of a HOLY God.

2.  It is dangerous because it is based on human sight.  "...don't see...".  The time of the Judges was a time of utter spiritual chaos and unspeakable acts done in the name of God.  What philosophy produced this sad chapter "...every man did that which was right in his own eyes." 

3.  It is dangerous because activity is deemed acceptable because of the perceived absence of a negative instead of the overwhelming presence of a positive.  "...anything wrong with it."  Carnal Christians always wish to put separated saints on the defensive by expecting us to prove what is "wrong" with their worldly activity and carnal compromise.  Sorry.  Nothing EVER should be accepted based on the absence of a negative.  Ball back in your court.  What is right with it?  How does it bring glory and honor to God?  Paul wrote under divine inspiration to the CARNAL church at Corinth:  1 Corinthians 10:31  Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

My experience is this:  carnality cannot be reasoned with.  I stand in awe at what a worldly Christian can rationalize as acceptable.  God's holiness is not only a forgotten concept, but one much despised.  Sad...

So...Rock Out!  Shimmy and shake for Jesus.  Swoon over your "Jesus is my Boyfriend" songs.  Beat your drums and dance around your golden calf.  Defend your shaggy guitar heroes as "good Christians".  Jam for Jesus.  Look down your nose at those who don't -- declare them "irrelevant" and "out dated".    Go for it!

Does the Bible contain commands and principles that guide us away from CCM?  Absolutely.  Am I inclined to argue these points on this forum.  Nope.  Pearls before swine....
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Colossians 3:17...you're welcome!
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I like Ephesians 5:19 myself...
 
Frag said:
Does the Bible contain commands and principles that guide us away from CCM?  Absolutely.  Am I inclined to argue these points on this forum.  Nope.  Pearls before swine....
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Golly Frag, you are sooo holy!! ::)
 
Frag said:
There are seven words that have all but destroyed the concept of personal holiness.  It is the drop phrase of the luck-warm, the calling-card of the carnal, and the sound-bite of the backslidden.  These seven words are the most dangerous words a Christian can utter. 

"I don't see anything wrong with it." 


1.  It is dangerous because it starts with "I". Never start with yourself.  Always consider every thing in light of a HOLY God.

2.  It is dangerous because it is based on human sight.  "...don't see...".  The time of the Judges was a time of utter spiritual chaos and unspeakable acts done in the name of God.  What philosophy produced this sad chapter "...every man did that which was right in his own eyes." 

3.  It is dangerous because activity is deemed acceptable because of the perceived absence of a negative instead of the overwhelming presence of a positive.  "...anything wrong with it."  Carnal Christians always wish to put separated saints on the defensive by expecting us to prove what is "wrong" with their worldly activity and carnal compromise.  Sorry.  Nothing EVER should be accepted based on the absence of a negative.  Ball back in your court.  What is right with it?  How does it bring glory and honor to God?  Paul wrote under divine inspiration to the CARNAL church at Corinth:  1 Corinthians 10:31  Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

My experience is this:  carnality cannot be reasoned with.  I stand in awe at what a worldly Christian can rationalize as acceptable.  God's holiness is not only a forgotten concept, but one much despised.  Sad...

So...Rock Out!  Shimmy and shake for Jesus.  Swoon over your "Jesus is my Boyfriend" songs.  Beat your drums and dance around your golden calf.  Defend your shaggy guitar heroes as "good Christians".  Jam for Jesus.  Look down your nose at those who don't -- declare them "irrelevant" and "out dated".    Go for it!

Does the Bible contain commands and principles that guide us away from CCM?  Absolutely.  Am I inclined to argue these points on this forum.  Nope.  Pearls before swine....
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Instead of CCM I wonder if you could put Harley Davidson Motorcycles in its place and using that logic come to the same conclusion? Yes, I think you could.
 
Mathew Ward said:
Frag said:
There are seven words that have all but destroyed the concept of personal holiness.  It is the drop phrase of the luck-warm, the calling-card of the carnal, and the sound-bite of the backslidden.  These seven words are the most dangerous words a Christian can utter. 

"I don't see anything wrong with it." 


1.  It is dangerous because it starts with "I". Never start with yourself.  Always consider every thing in light of a HOLY God.

2.  It is dangerous because it is based on human sight.  "...don't see...".  The time of the Judges was a time of utter spiritual chaos and unspeakable acts done in the name of God.  What philosophy produced this sad chapter "...every man did that which was right in his own eyes." 

3.  It is dangerous because activity is deemed acceptable because of the perceived absence of a negative instead of the overwhelming presence of a positive.  "...anything wrong with it."  Carnal Christians always wish to put separated saints on the defensive by expecting us to prove what is "wrong" with their worldly activity and carnal compromise.  Sorry.  Nothing EVER should be accepted based on the absence of a negative.  Ball back in your court.  What is right with it?  How does it bring glory and honor to God?  Paul wrote under divine inspiration to the CARNAL church at Corinth:  1 Corinthians 10:31  Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

My experience is this:  carnality cannot be reasoned with.  I stand in awe at what a worldly Christian can rationalize as acceptable.  God's holiness is not only a forgotten concept, but one much despised.  Sad...

So...Rock Out!  Shimmy and shake for Jesus.  Swoon over your "Jesus is my Boyfriend" songs.  Beat your drums and dance around your golden calf.  Defend your shaggy guitar heroes as "good Christians".  Jam for Jesus.  Look down your nose at those who don't -- declare them "irrelevant" and "out dated".    Go for it!

Does the Bible contain commands and principles that guide us away from CCM?  Absolutely.  Am I inclined to argue these points on this forum.  Nope.  Pearls before swine....
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Instead of CCM I wonder if you could put Harley Davidson Motorcycles in its place and using that logic come to the same conclusion? Yes, I think you could.
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Or music played on a Hammond organ!  Yup!
 
Binaca Chugger said:
admin said:
"It's not my preference."
"I don't like it."
"Therefore, it is wrong for everyone else."
"Eventhough I cannot point to Scripture, I see 'principles' and 'concepts' that give me comfort in making my preferences legitimate."

We all know that the music in a church is ultimately from the preference of the pastor.
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7 words, admin.....get with it!  8)
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OK. The pastor picks all the songs here.
 
There is no such thing as Christian Contemporary Music in Scripture


the end

 
Biker said:
There is no such thing as Christian Contemporary Music in Scripture


the end
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There are a lot of things not in scrioture. There absence does not make them permissable.
 
ItinerantPreacher said:
Biker said:
There is no such thing as Christian Contemporary Music in Scripture


the end
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There are a lot of things not in scrioture. There absence does not make them permissable.
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SO true... :D I'll add "Christian" has nothing to do with a style of music. This a deceitful tactic to re-define CHRISTian.
Deceit has no place in a church service. I have a few CCM songs on my IPOD yet I wouldn't push these secular songs to be a part of a Worship service
 
ItinerantPreacher said:
There are a lot of things not in scrioture. There absence does not make them permissable.
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There are a lot of things not in Scripture. Their absence does not make them impermissible.
 
ItinerantPreacher said:
Biker said:
There is no such thing as Christian Contemporary Music in Scripture


the end
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There are a lot of things not in scrioture. There absence does not make them permissable.
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True that.

That is why the "show me chapter and verse" is the defense of the foolish.

It is also why Christians need to treat the principles and precepts of the Bible as sacredly as they do the commands of the Bible.

Start with the "whatsoever" principles of the New Testament.  Good starting place.  Eliminates much of what is defended by the confused and carnal....
 
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