in knowledge that others are burning for eternity? For some sons, mothers, daughters, fathers, etc.
How can you be happy in heaven
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I have thought about this as well...
I can never fathom this but I would answer two ways...
First...how do we go through life knowing those who have ALREADY died and we are fairly certain they are not in heaven?
Second...I believe we will see sin as God does.
I can never fathom this but I would answer two ways...
First...how do we go through life knowing those who have ALREADY died and we are fairly certain they are not in heaven?
Second...I believe we will see sin as God does.
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2
The Lord Jesus became sin for those same souls who rejected Him. Since we will be like Christ, we will view sin and those who have rejected Christ as Christ views them.
The time to be concerned for their souls is NOW while there is hope.
The Lord Jesus became sin for those same souls who rejected Him. Since we will be like Christ, we will view sin and those who have rejected Christ as Christ views them.
The time to be concerned for their souls is NOW while there is hope.
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1. Because we love God above all else, and He is our joy and our peace.
2. Because, in the end, God is infinitely gracious and just.
3. Because those who are in Hell have totally rejected God's infinite grace and justice and have received the fruits of their rebellion against God.
4. Heaven would not be Heaven without the justice, grace, and Holiness of Christ in us.
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SaviorSelf said:
Because God's judgment is righteous and praiseworthy.
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BTW...this side of heaven in our limited understanding...I will go with Aleshanee's answer, there has to be something in God's wiping away every tear that will remove the grief we would feel knowing our loved one's are in hell. I do not question God's righteousness or his justice in this, but the knowledge of that would not remove my sadness that anyone I loved is in hell.
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Does everyone see the sad face above? ^^
He is sad because he doesn't believe in a righteous and praiseworthy God.
No.. that's an eye roll.. because his response was ridiculous. When a judge executes a person, knowing that the decision was righteous does nothing to alleviate pain.
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In Romans chapter 9 the apostle Paul discusses Esau and Jacob, Pharaoh, and vessels of wrath as well as vessels of mercy. In his analogy of the potter and clay Paul makes it very clear that a sovereign God can choose some vessels for mercy while allowing other vessels to incur the just penalty of their sin. By their rejection of Him, God does not make men sinful, but leaves them in the sin they have chosen and allows them to pay for it. The fact of the matter is, if God did not choose to reach down and save some, none would be saved. No man or woman would come to God on their own because of their sinful nature. Election is simply an act of mercy.SaviorSelf said:'BandGuy said:SaviorSelf said:Ransom said:
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Does everyone see the sad face above? ^^
He is sad because he doesn't believe in a righteous and praiseworthy God.
No.. that's an eye roll.. because his response was ridiculous. When a judge executes a person, knowing that the decision was righteous does nothing to alleviate pain.
Paul says in 9:19,20 - 19 You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?" 20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, "Why have you made me like this?"
When Paul says, "who are you to reply against God?" he isn't addressing those who have honest questions concerning what seems to be unfairness on God's part but he is addressing those who use these things to excuse their own sin and unbelief. If someone says, "my God would never create hell," then they are right because He doesn't exist. He is a figment of his imagination. He is a god that person has created in his own mind.
I don't go as far as to say that God created some people for the purpose of sending them to hell, but Paul clearly says that God uses them to display His wrath and gets glory from that as well as receiving glory in showing mercy.
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What 'dark blah blah blah' are you referring to? The foreboding thought that we will have permanent joy in eternity(actually now)? That is somehow dark?admin said:
Happiness is affected by happenings. What we possess is eternal joy.
After the Judgement, tears will be wiped away. There will never again be any happenings affecting our emotional state. Don't you agree that Revelation teaches this?
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Exactly. A Nation whose God is the LORD will have happenings that produce positive emotion. Things will go well for them...happy.admin said:
This is temporary, totally conditional on their continued relationship with God. I cite Genesis through Malachi as exhibit A, your honor.
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Interesting... but an absurd workaround.
I don't know about you, but my LORD will still be my LORD in heaven. My happiness will be constant!
I have heard this tripe before. It just strips people of the ability to be happy. It is just pure legalism that ends up creating congregants that mope around in their so-called "joy." Why? Because some preacher says "Don't be happy... that is just temporal." It is just IFBXr psycho-babble that ignores Scripture and posits a false definition (not supported by dictionaries).
I don't know about you, but my LORD will still be my LORD in heaven. My happiness will be constant!
I have heard this tripe before. It just strips people of the ability to be happy. It is just pure legalism that ends up creating congregants that mope around in their so-called "joy." Why? Because some preacher says "Don't be happy... that is just temporal." It is just IFBXr psycho-babble that ignores Scripture and posits a false definition (not supported by dictionaries).
That works! But the false prophet will never see himself as the Gnostic he is.
I think prophet is a sharp guy but refuses, for some reason, to lose this Hyles teaching on happiness vs. Joy. I use and prefer the AV myself and looked it up..yep "happy" is frequently used. I still catch myself holding onto Hylesisms until I research it out then realize....ahh ...that's where I got that.