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I spoke to a young lady yesterday that told me she was going to NFBC "if she is accepted". She applied but hasn't heard back from them yet. I didn't tell her about the Neal's history of scamming schools and that they are probably waiting to see if they get enough students to actually open. She is a smart kid but her dad has fully bought in to the cause. Her mother's family wanted her to go to a school where she could get a degree that was useful outside IFB churches. Que sara, sara.
 

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I spoke to a young lady yesterday that told me she was going to NFBC "if she is accepted". She applied but hasn't heard back from them yet. I didn't tell her about the Neal's history of scamming schools and that they are probably waiting to see if they get enough students to actually open. She is a smart kid but her dad has fully bought in to the cause. Her mother's family wanted her to go to a school where she could get a degree that was useful outside IFB churches. Que sara, sara.
So much depends upon her plans; she may be wanting to find a Christian husband, and that's perfectly fine, and a Christian college is a good place to find a mate.

Having said that, she should certainly have a plan in case no one comes her way. I know a couple of young ladies pretty well who went off to a Bible College -- they each had plans prepared for the future. But one is married and the other is seriously dating.

It can be exciting to be part of a new school, but the Neals are not a group of people I'd trust. With Bob Gray, Sr there, and Greg Neal's video scandals, and their man-worship of Jack Hyles -- I'm sure that there are better choices.
 

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That is true, however, many have done just this or currently are doing this. They go to college with the one goal of getting their MRS. degree.
Not just women; I have heard men counsel young men to go to Bible college to find a wife.

A spouse is usually found during one's college years... I know it was true of me; that's when I met my wife, although she did not attend the same college.

This may be an interesting survey - what age were you when you met your spouse?
 

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Please help her go somewhere else. There are many other IFB schools that have enough people that she could find associates without having to kiss the feet of Greg Neal.
 

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If I didn’t go to college for the purpose of preparing for ministry and seminary, the idea of needing to go to an IFB college to find a spouse is manipulation.

College is (and always has been) designed to prepare people for careers requiring higher education.

I do not see why going to an IFB college is especially helpful in finding a Christian spouse. The genuine Christians are much easier to find in a secular setting.
 

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If I didn’t go to college for the purpose of preparing for ministry and seminary, the idea of needing to go to an IFB college to find a spouse is manipulation.

College is (and always has been) designed to prepare people for careers requiring higher education.

I do not see why going to an IFB college is especially helpful in finding a Christian spouse. The genuine Christians are much easier to find in a secular setting.

I understand the reasoning of it. If you are in an IFB college, you are around people who would have very similar perspective on life, guidelines for life and life goals. What is important to you is what is probably important to them. Thus, you would be surrounded by people who would be very good potential mates. The problem arises when all of it is phony and a MOG is imposing himself on you and your relationship.
 

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Most IFB congregations are so small that singles are not ever going to meet a suitable mate within their own congregation. If they visit around to other churches, even of like faith and practice, to look for a mate, that is sometimes frowned upon as evidence of disloyalty to one's own church and MOG. So it might make a certain amount of good sense to enroll in an IFB college in hopes of matrimony, and I have no problem with young people who do that - it may better than letting the movement die out because the young folks are not marrying and reproducing.

But the problem is, if the students are not regarded as loyal enough to the administration, then they are discouraged from dating and mating, and engagements are sometimes deliberately broken up by the administration. James Spurgeon encountered that problem at Bob Gray's college as recorded in his "Tales From the Temple" book. It is my understanding that insufficiently loyal students at Bob Jones University are "socialed" (forbidden to date). Back when I was being pressured to enroll at BJU, one of the enticements was that if I went there, I was absolutely guaranteed to find a wife there. I didn't believe it, and I didn't go.

I totally agree that "A Bible college is a pretty expensive dating service." In theory, it would be better for church people to let their young people stay at home and then do some matchmaking (with permission given to do so by the objects of matchmaking) to help them find a mate close at hand, as opposed to imposing upon them sell all, uproot themselves, disrupt their lives, leave family and church friends, and move across country to a Bible college from which, in most cases, they never come back to the "feeder churches" that sent them there. (And in many cases they don't find a spouse there anyhow).

A lot of already-married Christians do not see any need for matchmaking and they even think it is unspiritual for singles to want to escape their low-caste status (as assigned to them by Bill Gothard and his "chain of command" principles for never-married singles) by getting married. So, I am totally sympathetic to young women, and young men, who attend Christian college partly with the motivation of finding a mate there, as long as they weren't arm-twisted to go, like I was pressured to go to BJU. But please don't go to a college run by sex perverts like North Florida Baptist College.
 

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Not just women; I have heard men counsel young men to go to Bible college to find a wife.

A spouse is usually found during one's college years... I know it was true of me; that's when I met my wife, although she did not attend the same college.

This may be an interesting survey - what age were you when you met your spouse?
I met my wife in college, however, neither of us went for the purposes of finding a spouse. God brought us together while there.

If I didn’t go to college for the purpose of preparing for ministry and seminary, the idea of needing to go to an IFB college to find a spouse is manipulation.
I don't disagree with you here, but unfortunately many do. It may also be why they have difficulty later in their marriage cause they weren't looking to follow God, they were looking to find a spouse.
 

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Please help her go somewhere else. There are many other IFB schools that have enough people that she could find associates without having to kiss the feet of Greg Neal.
Heh -- or be spied on.
 
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