Which is better: for God to be one and understandable, or for Him to be divided into three persons and difficult to understand?
One God or three gods in one God
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A God limited to my understanding is a God that cannot save.
Can you explain further to me?
If God is understandable by finite humans, how is He greater than them?
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If you cannot imagine one God, how can there be three?
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Neither is better. What is best is what is true. And neither of your options are true.
I believe in one triune God. But like Ransom said, you are mistaken because you are looking at Him as either one unit or three separate things. You are trying to frame God into a mold that your finite understanding can grasp. Again, I say, a God who is limited by finite understanding is no God at all.
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There are a lot of things that I can't imagine, and yet am convinced they must be.
An eternal God. One with no beginning of days or end of life.
Heaven, His abode.
Hell, the place of torment reserved for His enemies.
So whether or not I can imagine something is immaterial to the truth or falsehood of something.
But let me ask you this, what do you believe about Jesus?
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No one can understand God. That is like you as a teenager saying you could understand your father and his ways, etc. As a matter of fact, your father, was at the same time a husband, someone's son. Thus he was one and three at the same time.
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very well said...... i could not have explained it better.......
I’ve been in church since I was a baby. This is the best analogy I’ve ever seen for the Trinity. Thank you!
You've describe Modalism, which reveals God as one Person in three roles or modes, and is not what is described by the doctrine of the Trinity.
The Trinity reveals one God in three distinct, co-equal Persons. A better example, though all examples break down at some point, would be a man and woman joined together by God and becoming one flesh. Two persons, one flesh.
No is saved by a confession of the Trinity. One is saved when he confesses the Lord Jesus, and believes in his heart that God has raised him from the dead.
Tawhis not found in arabic Koran, and Islam has Allaf, the word, Koran, Spirit of Allah, Allah with wife and 3 daughters
Why did the Lord become incarnate in the Virgin's womb, and why did Jesus come? Isn't Jesus the Lord, or is Jesus different from God the Father?
Can you tell me what is correct?
This means that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one and the same.
Your answer is very nice, and you are a straightforward person, first of all.
I will tell you about all my thoughts
I was studying with a Muslim sheikh, and this man passed away one day. We were reading the Quran when he said that Jesus is God. But the people didn't understand this; everyone was astonished. Someone asked him, "How do you know this?" He replied, "The Quran doesn't mention anyone who could raise the dead, create birds from clay, heal the blind and the lepers, bring down a table of food from heaven, or speak while still a newborn—that is, Jesus. No prophet's father did such things." Because of this statement, he was accused of apostasy and killed. However, his words became a key for some to search until we came to believe that he is God. When I read the Sermon on the Mount, it was the most beautiful thing I've ever read. I believed that he is the Lord and that this was the word of God. After that, we had a teacher who began teaching us about the Trinity, about salvation through the blood, and that salvation had already been accomplished. I believed this, but after reading the Old and New Testaments, I didn't find anything about God being in three persons or the Father being equal to the Son. I found that Jesus said, "Do not call me good." I found that he said he didn't know when the Day of Judgment would be. I found that he said, "My Lord, my Lord, why have you forsaken me?"
If the three are equal, how could Satan put the Lord in temptation after He had been filled with the Holy Spirit?