Patriot or Pacifist?

[subllibrm]

Either works for Uncle Screwtape.

Catwithahat.net - Screwtape on Extremism

"Some ages are lukewarm and complacent, and then it is our business to soothe them yet faster asleep. Other ages, of which the present is one, are unbalanced and prone to faction, and it is our business to inflame them. Any small coterie, bound together by some interest which other men dislike or ignore, tends to develop inside itself a hothouse of mutual admiration, and towards the outer world, a great deal of pride and hatred which is entertained without shame because the "Cause" is its sponsor and it is thought to be impersonal."

 

[Ekklesian]

Christ said hot or cold. Nothing in between.

 

[ALAYMAN]

Christ said hot or cold. Nothing in between.

True, but exegetically that’s a real stretch to make the application of that saying to politics in any age, which was the aim of Lewis in the quote posted.

 

[Ekklesian]

True, but exegetically that’s a real stretch to make the application of that saying to politics in any age, which was the aim of Lewis in the quote posted.

Screwtape wasn't lecturing about politics, either.

 

[subllibrm]

Christ said hot or cold. Nothing in between.

Hot or cold for Christ. Get heated up for someone/something else and we have a problem.

 

[subllibrm]

Screwtape wasn't lecturing about politics, either.

The context was tied to WWII. To suggest that politics wasn’t involved is silly. Chamberlain was busy appeasing while Roosevelt was working behind the scenes to prepare. Both were dealing with political opposition. American opinion was heavily isolationist regarding a return to war in Europe.

 

[Ekklesian]

The context was tied to WWII. To suggest that politics wasn’t involved is silly. Chamberlain was busy appeasing while Roosevelt was working behind the scenes to prepare. Both were dealing with political opposition. American opinion was heavily isolationist regarding a return to war in Europe.

What's silly is suggesting that Patriotism and Pacifism are extremes.

 

[ALAYMAN]

What's silly is suggesting that Patriotism and Pacifism are extremes.

Now that’s an observation that I might be more apt to agree with.

 

[sword]

The context was tied to WWII. To suggest that politics wasn’t involved is silly. Chamberlain was busy appeasing while Roosevelt was working behind the scenes to prepare. Both were dealing with political opposition. American opinion was heavily isolationist regarding a return to war in Europe.

Many historians have written, but for Pearl Harbor, we did not have the political will to get involved.

What say you, do you think as Europe fell we would have eventually jumped in or if Hitler would have been content with Europe and Africa and left us alone we would have watched most of the known world fall to Facisim without raising a hand?

 

[subllibrm]

Many historians have written, but for Pearl Harbor, we did not have the political will to get involved.

What say you, do you think as Europe fell we would have eventually jumped in or if Hitler would have been content with Europe and Africa and left us alone we would have watched most of the known world fall to Facisim without raising a hand?

I suspect that we would have eventually gotten involved. To win it would have taken much longer, significantly higher monetary cost and a lot more dead Russians.