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[Tangled]

So I'm new to this forum as a "poster."  I've looked at it off and on over the years out of curiosity though. I decided to join because I thought it would be nice to have a place to ask questions without fearing judgment. I know, I know that statement alone tells you I was at WH for waaayy too long. My family left a few years before the "explosion" of a year and a half ago. But we still had connections so we're still semi involved.

I just feel like an adult who is still trying to figure out what they believe in many respects. I haven't lost faith in the fundamentals (ironic word I know) of the Bible.  I've just been questioning recent how much of what I was taught is right and how much is opinion. I have been trying to study for myself. I just still find myself having the Windsor mentality, if that makes sense.

Anyway, just "introducing" myself.  If you see me start a thread or comment, you'll know where I'm coming from.

 

[fishinnut]

Welcome aboard.

Spend some time on the HAC forum............it'll get you thinking, toughened up & hopefully send you to your own study of the Word............rather than all the "Do what I say" out of loyalty stuff.

 

[Just me]

Welcome also. 

How long were you all at WHBC and did you go to the Christian school?  I ask those because the answers will tell how indoctrinated to the system you were.  The more indoctrinated you were the longer and harder the effort will be to quit having the Windsor mentality show out or show up in your thought process.  You just cannot drop it as you would like to.

 

[JustABigKid]

Welcome Tangled,

I completely understand where you are coming from on "Windsor Mentality." There are so many times everyday that I go to make a decision or react to something and I have to stop myself and make sure that I am not thinking the "windsor way" and make sure I am really considering the situation "God's way"

Ask away that is what I did when I started posting and many will be glad to answer.

 

[Vince Massi]

Tangled, I used to be a teacher at both their high school and college. Everything there was conformed to the image of Jim Vineyard. Jim had his good points, but all his spiritual problems were embedded into the church.

You asked what they believed, and loosely speaking, they believed that you should believe whatever Jim told you to believe.

If you get into a church that believes God's Word above Jim's authority, you'll do much better.

 

[Saved by Grace]

Welcome Tangled,

Some times we wonder why God allows us to get involved or be apart of certain situations but we must remember there is always lessons to be learned good and bad. Being apart of a oppressive church/ cult isn't ever what any Christian set out to become apart of glad to hear you have removed yourself from that. Always remind yourself the Christ is worthy and when we serve we serve because of what he has done not bc we are forced and guilt tripped into it

Hang in there it gets better the farther you get away from those kind of churches. My wife and I both grew up in churches  like that and have never been happier once we got away.

 

[Walt]

So I'm new to this forum as a "poster."  I've looked at it off and on over the years out of curiosity though. I decided to join because I thought it would be nice to have a place to ask questions without fearing judgment. I know, I know that statement alone tells you I was at WH for waaayy too long. My family left a few years before the "explosion" of a year and a half ago. But we still had connections so we're still semi involved.

I just feel like an adult who is still trying to figure out what they believe in many respects. I haven't lost faith in the fundamentals (ironic word I know) of the Bible.  I've just been questioning recent how much of what I was taught is right and how much is opinion. I have been trying to study for myself. I just still find myself having the Windsor mentality, if that makes sense.

Anyway, just "introducing" myself.  If you see me start a thread or comment, you'll know where I'm coming from.

I'll add my welcome as well; I was not part of WHBC or OBC, but I've been through very similar circumstances, based upon what the others have posted about that place and their experiences.

By God's grace, I don't blame Him for the failures of men, and still believe the basic fundamentals.

 

[sword]

So I'm new to this forum as a "poster."  I've looked at it off and on over the years out of curiosity though. I decided to join because I thought it would be nice to have a place to ask questions without fearing judgment. I know, I know that statement alone tells you I was at WH for waaayy too long. My family left a few years before the "explosion" of a year and a half ago. But we still had connections so we're still semi involved.
I just feel like an adult who is still trying to figure out what they believe in many respects. I haven't lost faith in the fundamentals (ironic word I know) of the Bible.  I've just been questioning recent how much of what I was taught is right and how much is opinion. I have been trying to study for myself. I just still find myself having the Windsor mentality, if that makes sense.
Anyway, just "introducing" myself.  If you see me start a thread or comment, you'll know where I'm coming from.

I'll add my welcome as well; I was not part of WHBC or OBC, but I've been through very similar circumstances, based upon what the others have posted about that place and their experiences.
By God's grace, I don't blame Him for the failures of men, and still believe the basic fundamentals.

I believe WHBC is like so many other churches of their stripe. Generally what they teach is correct and good but  they take it to such an extreme that the idea or standard loses its original intent or meaning.

Standards should have a bible basis not just the pastors decree.

 

[JustABigKid]

Standards should have a bible basis not just the pastors decree.

THIS!

If you don't have this then you simply become a dictator!

 

[Walt]

So I'm new to this forum as a "poster."  I've looked at it off and on over the years out of curiosity though. I decided to join because I thought it would be nice to have a place to ask questions without fearing judgment. I know, I know that statement alone tells you I was at WH for waaayy too long. My family left a few years before the "explosion" of a year and a half ago. But we still had connections so we're still semi involved.
I just feel like an adult who is still trying to figure out what they believe in many respects. I haven't lost faith in the fundamentals (ironic word I know) of the Bible.  I've just been questioning recent how much of what I was taught is right and how much is opinion. I have been trying to study for myself. I just still find myself having the Windsor mentality, if that makes sense.
Anyway, just "introducing" myself.  If you see me start a thread or comment, you'll know where I'm coming from.

I'll add my welcome as well; I was not part of WHBC or OBC, but I've been through very similar circumstances, based upon what the others have posted about that place and their experiences.
By God's grace, I don't blame Him for the failures of men, and still believe the basic fundamentals.

I believe WHBC is like so many other churches of their stripe. Generally what they teach is correct and good but  they take it to such an extreme that the idea or standard loses its original intent or meaning.

Standards should have a bible basis not just the pastors decree.

While I agree with both of these, I would add to the first paragraph that sometimes it's not just a matter of taking things to extremes.  In some things, they have a misplaced emphasis.  Take Longview, for example: While the so-called "Great Commission" is important, they put a LOT of emphasis on large numbers of people saved and baptized.  Thus, they have people flat-out lying on activity reports, and they have children that they'll baptize a dozen times.  They also don't seem to be as zealous in grounding people in the Scriptures.  "Soul-winning" to them is everything, and they sneer at other areas in the Christian life.