The establishment is trying to destroy Cruz.

Tarheel Baptist

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First, Romney endorsed him and now this:

http://www.youngcons.com/jeb-bush-endorses-ted-cruz-for-president/
This is a sure-fire way of cutting into his numbers.
 
Amazing that they back him, yet Teddies everywhere still think he is the non-establishment guy.

Don't forget Lindsay Graham's apologetic endorsement of him last week.

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Tarheel Baptist said:
First, Romney endorsed him and now this:

http://www.youngcons.com/jeb-bush-endorses-ted-cruz-for-president/
This is a sure-fire way of cutting into his numbers.

I agree!
 
He was my favorite in Stryper.

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Well it does appear to be helping in the polls. In a FOX poll out today he is within the margin of error behind Trump (just 3 points while Kasich no doubt is siphoning of a lot of support with 17% of his own)  and leads Hillary in a general election scenario while as of now the gap between Hillary's lead over Trump grows into double digits.
 
Just John said:
Well it does appear to be helping in the polls. In a FOX poll out today he is within the margin of error behind Trump (just 3 points while Kasich no doubt is siphoning of a lot of support with 17% of his own)  and leads Hillary in a general election scenario while as of now the gap between Hillary's lead over Trump grows into double digits.

The establishment's previous picks have always initially received a surge in popularity "according to the polls." This bump in popularity may go on for some time.  It is only after many have been given that false hope, "according to the polls," that the wheels come off for the establishment candidate.

Keep hope alive!  Maybe,  it won't happen this time.  ;D
 
Just John said:
Well it does appear to be helping in the polls. In a FOX poll out today he is within the margin of error behind Trump (just 3 points while Kasich no doubt is siphoning of a lot of support with 17% of his own)  and leads Hillary in a general election scenario while as of now the gap between Hillary's lead over Trump grows into double digits.

The Fox poll is way off every other poll. Its not helping him. Trump destroyed Cruz in Arizona and Trump was never going to win Utah. Which is pretty much the only thing Romney has done for anyone. That.... and the ad run by Ted's super pac about Trump's wife.

Trump is destroying Cruz in New York. Way up in NJ. At least tied in Wisconsin.... a place he shouldn't be tied.

This is only going to hurt Cruz. Trump needs to start pointing out the fact that the establishment is backing Cruz. That Cruz is really part of the establishment. That he has always wanted to be their leader. He doesn't want to change them.... he just wants to lead them.

MY money is on the GOP establishment to back Cruz being elected over Trump at the convention.

 
Jehanne La Pucelle said:
I pray we make it to the Convention! #CruzCrew, 2016!

So you would be for denying the majority delegate holder at the convention?

There is no way Cruz is going to win 80 plus percent of the remaining delegates. No way. Cruz will be at least 300 delegates behind if not 400.

If they take the nomination away from Trump and give it to Cruz.....

then how can the GOP ever look its party in the face again with a straight face?

The establishment is now making the argument that the party is ruined regardless of what happens and they are dead set on denying Trump anything.

So much for democracy. This isn't the 60s. They will not recover from doing this if they move forward with it. Trump will start a viable Third party. He might not win but it will end the current two party system.
 
The Quinnipiac poll has Trump plus 14 over Cruz.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us03232016_Umk53pw.pdf

 
Matthew1323 said:
Just John said:
Well it does appear to be helping in the polls. In a FOX poll out today he is within the margin of error behind Trump (just 3 points while Kasich no doubt is siphoning of a lot of support with 17% of his own)  and leads Hillary in a general election scenario while as of now the gap between Hillary's lead over Trump grows into double digits.

The establishment's previous picks have always initially received a surge in popularity "according to the polls." This bump in popularity may go on for some time.  It is only after many have been given that false hope, "according to the polls," that the wheels come off for the establishment candidate.

Keep hope alive!  Maybe,  it won't happen this time.  ;D

If they really want to stop Trump, they should all endorse him.
These same establishment wizards of smart told us that McCain and Romney could win the general....and now these same wizards of smart tell us that Trump can't win the general. In that case, I'd say he has a pretty good chance....
 
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/assessing-trumps-path-to-1237/

Seems reasonable to me...
 
Jehanne La Pucelle said:
praise_yeshua said:
... the GOP establishment to back Cruz being elected over Trump at the convention.
Wouldn't that be wonderful!

So you're not for democracy? You'd rather let a group of "elite" power brokers decide the nominee?
 
Jehanne La Pucelle said:
praise_yeshua said:
Jehanne La Pucelle said:
praise_yeshua said:
... the GOP establishment to back Cruz being elected over Trump at the convention.
Wouldn't that be wonderful!
So you're not for democracy?
I am a Republican, not a Democratic-Republican. Let them start their own party.

So you'd rather the ruling elite in the party choose the nominee...

Then why do you vote?
 
Jehanne La Pucelle said:
praise_yeshua said:
Jehanne La Pucelle said:
praise_yeshua said:
... the GOP establishment to back Cruz being elected over Trump at the convention.
Wouldn't that be wonderful!
So you're not for democracy?
I am a Republican, not a Democratic-Republican. Let them start their own party.
I am a  Conservative-Republican. The elite delegates, representing the American people, at the Convention is our form of government. Abraham Lincoln won the Republican nomination in 1860 on the third round. He was in second place at the time of the Convention. I will line up with Abraham Lincoln any day.

. . .
 
Jehanne La Pucelle said:
Jehanne La Pucelle said:
praise_yeshua said:
Jehanne La Pucelle said:
praise_yeshua said:
... the GOP establishment to back Cruz being elected over Trump at the convention.
Wouldn't that be wonderful!
So you're not for democracy?
I am a Republican, not a Democratic-Republican. Let them start their own party.
I am a  Conservative-Republican. The elite delegates, representing the America people, at the Convention is our form of government. Abraham Lincoln won the Republican nomination in 1860 on the third round. He was in second place at the time of the Convention. I will line up with Abraham Lincoln any day.

Don't run away....

Your comments are misleading. The delegate system today is not the delegate system of 1860. In fact, its not even close to being the same system. The delegates weren't bound by country wide primary elections or caucuses. Seward basically held the delegates of New York state, which was seen as an advantage. It is true that Lincoln was second with the primary support of Illinois delegates. This really doesn't compare to the picture we have today.

Trump won the Illinois primary and is leading in the low 70s in polls in New York. There really is no comparison.

Ted Cruz isn't Abraham Lincoln.

You can't throw away the choice of the people.
 
praise_yeshua said:
Jehanne La Pucelle said:
praise_yeshua said:
... the GOP establishment to back Cruz being elected over Trump at the convention.
Wouldn't that be wonderful!

So you're not for democracy? You'd rather let a group of "elite" power brokers decide the nominee?

It was good enough for Abe Lincoln...and 4 or 5 other GOP candidates. Rules are rules....not suggestions. Now you can moan that people won't like it and that will indeed be correct. Some won't. Others will. But it's not "stealing", "cheating" or "unfair".

Five Republicans have trailed in the convention when voting began but went onto become the nominee and President:

1860 - Lincoln on the third ballot

1876 - Rutherford B. Hayes began in the 5th spot and after 7 ballots became the nominee.

1877 - James Garfield after 2 days and on the 36th ballot....and he wasn't even running as a candidate.

1888 - Benjamin Harris was 5th place on the first ballot and nominated on the 8th ballot

1920 - Warren G Harding began in 6th place on the 1st ballot and won it on the 10th ballot. (The leader on the 1st ballot had 1/3 of the support).

Besides, we live in a republic.
 
Jehanne La Pucelle said:
Jehanne La Pucelle said:
praise_yeshua said:
Jehanne La Pucelle said:
praise_yeshua said:
... the GOP establishment to back Cruz being elected over Trump at the convention.
Wouldn't that be wonderful!
So you're not for democracy?
I am a Republican, not a Democratic-Republican. Let them start their own party.
I am a  Conservative-Republican. The elite delegates, representing the America people, at the Convention is our form of government. Abraham Lincoln won the Republican nomination in 1860 on the third round. He was in second place at the time of the Convention. I will line up with Abraham Lincoln any day.

I saw your post after mine. Well said.
 
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