The "Great Commission".
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All Dispensationalists agree these are 2 different Kingdoms. The Spiritual Kingdom of God is within you. It is Christ in you. The Millennial Kingdom will sit on a mountain and is not within us, now or then. They are two different Kingdoms. Unless you want to tell me you have a mountain inside of you.
Good job proving to everyone you are not a Dispensationalist but someone masquerading as one in an attempt to rebrand it with some unknown form of hybrid Covenant Theology while throwing all actual Dispensationalists under the bus. Like trying to breed a demonic Chimera.
FSSL's "Dispensationalism":
This is no doubt why you called Dallas Theological Seminary "extreme" when many of them are now Progressive Dispens, which Ryrie was against seeing as it softens the distinctions between Covenant Theology and Dispen, closer to Covenant Theology than Classical Dispen.
My goodness, if they're extreme when they're now considered the least extreme of all Dispensationalists to Covenant Theologians,
that implies that everyone else, even Classical Dispens, are even more extreme according to you.
Is this why you also attacked Scofield, a Classical Dispen? Then you go around speaking positively of Christian celebrities like MacArthur, a Lordship Salvationist.
You're either mentally stunted and arrogant or you're simply on a smear campaign to misrepresent and lie about different group's doctrines, as you have already multiple times. I find it hard to believe the first as I don't think you're that dumb. Neither do I believe your internet is "too slow for Youtube".
Also, they greatly differ in the view of who exactly is a "Jew". Dispensationalist believe the blood of Abraham makes a person a Jew.
Jesus pretty much destroyed this "teaching" in
Being a true descendant of Abraham has nothing to do with human blood.
Luk 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Luk 3:9 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Joh 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
Joh 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
Joh 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father.
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
A Jew is established in faith or he is no Jew.
Uh... God called them Jews accordingly so in the OT and still in the NT he makes a distinction between his plans for the Jews as a Nation and the Gentiles in Romans 11, albeit in the Spiritual Body of Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither male nor female.
Does this mean once someone is saved, they should also erase their gender identity and demand to be referred to by gender-neutral pronouns? What about those other verses in the NT that maintain other differences between men and women.
Covenant Theology is all theory, half-Bible, New Borg.
I referenced what Jesus said concerning a Jew. He told those who claimed to be Abraham's descendants that were of their Father Satan. Jesus also told those same people that God could rise up children to Abraham from stones.
A Jew is one that is one inwardly. Do you remember those words? There is only one seed of Abraham what makes a difference. Not seeds but SEED. That SEED is Jesus Christ.
Dispensationalism dishonors the Truth of Jesus Christ being the only promised SEED of Abraham.
First of all, this erases and addresses none of the Bible verses I referenced. They're still there. Regardless of your half-Bible theory. But let's get into this:
As usual, Covenant Theologians use a figurative, symbolic verse to try and get rid of simple, straightforward ones. They're still there.
Your understanding of that first verse must find room for all other verses in the Bible without bending or changing what the other ones say to fit your private interpretation of your first verse.
Plain, straightforward, literal verses which cannot be interpreted a thousand ways first, figurative or symbolic ones second. You're doing it backwards.
This is the primary error of Covenant Theology, which is why they must, must ignore certain verses in the Bible or else twist them into a Fusilli noodle.
No, Dispensationalism doesn't ignore a plethora of Bible verses just to build an isolated, incomplete theory on select others.
Major truth bomb dropping in this post.
Let's address 2 popular "Jews are the Synagogue of Satan" verses in a way most don't care to think of, shall we:
"Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet and they will learn that I have loved you." -Rev. 3:9
"I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan." -Rev. 2:9
When reading this, I want you to keep in mind that there IS NO Jew or Gentile IN Christ Jesus (Spiritually, INWARDLY) [Gal. 3:28],
Therefore and without forgetting that verse when God said he IS a Jew which is one INWARDLY not outwardly, he is using the term "Jew" in the CONTEXT that the ethnic Jews he was speaking to understood it: "child of God".
There are 2 possible interpretations of these verses that do not contradict or twist others, and both of them may well apply:
1. He's speaking about people who are not of actual ethnic Jewish heritage, yet claim to be. This in no way discounts ethnic Jews.
2. He's speaking about unsaved Covenant Theologians (most of whom now champion Lordship Salvation). "WHAAAT? IS HE BEING SERIOUS?"
Let's find out.
So what do Covenant Theologians do?
"They are claiming that because the Christian is a spiritual Jew (Rom. 2), that he is also a physical Jew, and therefore gets all the promises given to the Jew, and therefore God is all through with the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. This is the beginning of Amillennial and Postmillennial theology. And these two pagan speculations are taught by the “Ante Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers,” in this period and later. They are Cyprian, A.D. 200; Jerome, A.D. 345; Origen, A.D. 182; Clement, A.D. 200; Didymus, A.D. 313; Asthanasius, A.D. 297; and Cyril of Jerusalem, A.D. 380.
Here we have Amillennialism and Postmillennialism coming in [Dispensationalism came first: Satan attacks this truth], which teach that God is all through with the Jew forever, the Christian has replaced the Jew, the church has replaced Israel, and the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven are the same. Therefore, the spiritual kingdom of “the gospel” is composed of mortgages, stocks, bonds, collateral, indemnity, interest, lobbies, parochial schools, tax grants, etc., to carry out its work of “spreading the kingdom.” Further, all the Old Testament promises to Israel are spiritual and to be applied to the Christian, that God is all through with Israel and you can persecute the Jew and get away with it, and the church has replaced Israel. Therefore, the Gentile Roman “Catholic” is now “top dog” and can drive the Jew out and take his land, even if he has to send Crusaders to capture the city!
Of course, this is blasphemous foolishness of the worst kind. The Holy Spirit says that these people “say they are Jews” and they are not, and He calls this B L A S P H E M Y (Rev. 2:9). The most blasphemous religious outfit on the face of the earth—according to the Author of the Bible—is an outfit that professes to replace, or supplant or supersede, Israel, the Jew. God is not through with the Jew (1 Thess. 2; Rom. 9, 11) and you are told not to be “wise in your own conceits” and think that you have replaced him, because you have not. You may be a spiritual Jew, but the literal, physical, earthly, visible twelve tribes of Israel have yet to come into their own; they will at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
...In A.D. 354, Augustine, the Roman “Catholic,” North African bishop, wrote a book called The City of God, in which he fully develops this theology. He even goes so far as to say that Rome has replaced Jerusalem, and this is one of the main sources from which the United States gets its blasphemous, anti Biblical “Christianity.”
...“I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” These people, who claim to replace Israel and to replace the Jew, are of the Devil according to the text. They are not merely backslidden Christians; they are not even professing Christians, according to the text; they are not “Church Fathers,” but are (to quote the Holy Spirit) “children of hell” (Matt. 23; John 8)." -Dr. Peter S. Ruckman, Revelation Commentary
And you wonder why the hellbound gospel of Lordship Salvation is popular in Covenant Theology and championed by a Pseudo-Dispensationalists like MacArthur who throws REAL Dispensationalists under the bus. These moves of Satan are designed to thwart the distinction between Jew and Gentile, for this affects the Gospel of the Grace of God vs. the Gospel of the Kingdom, the Book of Hebrews, and Eschatology/Rapture Theology as a whole. You are witnessing the intelligence of Satan's scheme played out now that he's had millennia upon millennia of practice and careful planning: he was more subtle and relentless than you thought, Covenant Theologians. He pulled the old switcheroo on you and blinded you from what you were in fact doing.
God has always used a remnant who believed and were faithful to his word.
Not those of the majority following who Satan, the god of this world, makes popular.
Those people usually receive the worst end of it. But not before God reaches them with warning.
First I guess Peter went to hell then, because Jesus called Peter Satan directly to his face.
Let's address 2 popular "Jews are the Synagogue of Satan" verses in a way most don't care to think of, shall we:
"Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet and they will learn that I have loved you." -Rev. 3:9
"I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan." -Rev. 2:9
When reading this, I want you to keep in mind that there IS NO Jew or Gentile IN Christ Jesus (Spiritually, INWARDLY) [Gal. 3:28],
Therefore and without forgetting that verse when God said he IS a Jew which is one INWARDLY not outwardly, he is using the term "Jew" in the CONTEXT that the ethnic Jews he was speaking to understood it: "child of God".
There are 2 possible interpretations of these verses that do not contradict or twist others, and both of them may well apply:
1. He's speaking about people who are not of actual ethnic Jewish heritage, yet claim to be. This in no way discounts ethnic Jews.
2. He's speaking about unsaved Covenant Theologians (most of whom now champion Lordship Salvation). "WHAAAT? IS HE BEING SERIOUS?"
Let's find out.
So what do Covenant Theologians do?
"They are claiming that because the Christian is a spiritual Jew (Rom. 2), that he is also a physical Jew, and therefore gets all the promises given to the Jew, and therefore God is all through with the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. This is the beginning of Amillennial and Postmillennial theology. And these two pagan speculations are taught by the “Ante Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers,” in this period and later. They are Cyprian, A.D. 200; Jerome, A.D. 345; Origen, A.D. 182; Clement, A.D. 200; Didymus, A.D. 313; Asthanasius, A.D. 297; and Cyril of Jerusalem, A.D. 380.
Here we have Amillennialism and Postmillennialism coming in [Dispensationalism came first: Satan attacks this truth], which teach that God is all through with the Jew forever, the Christian has replaced the Jew, the church has replaced Israel, and the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven are the same. Therefore, the spiritual kingdom of “the gospel” is composed of mortgages, stocks, bonds, collateral, indemnity, interest, lobbies, parochial schools, tax grants, etc., to carry out its work of “spreading the kingdom.” Further, all the Old Testament promises to Israel are spiritual and to be applied to the Christian, that God is all through with Israel and you can persecute the Jew and get away with it, and the church has replaced Israel. Therefore, the Gentile Roman “Catholic” is now “top dog” and can drive the Jew out and take his land, even if he has to send Crusaders to capture the city!
Of course, this is blasphemous foolishness of the worst kind. The Holy Spirit says that these people “say they are Jews” and they are not, and He calls this B L A S P H E M Y (Rev. 2:9). The most blasphemous religious outfit on the face of the earth—according to the Author of the Bible—is an outfit that professes to replace, or supplant or supersede, Israel, the Jew. God is not through with the Jew (1 Thess. 2; Rom. 9, 11) and you are told not to be “wise in your own conceits” and think that you have replaced him, because you have not. You may be a spiritual Jew, but the literal, physical, earthly, visible twelve tribes of Israel have yet to come into their own; they will at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
...In A.D. 354, Augustine, the Roman “Catholic,” North African bishop, wrote a book called The City of God, in which he fully develops this theology. He even goes so far as to say that Rome has replaced Jerusalem, and this is one of the main sources from which the United States gets its blasphemous, anti Biblical “Christianity.”
...“I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” These people, who claim to replace Israel and to replace the Jew, are of the Devil according to the text. They are not merely backslidden Christians; they are not even professing Christians, according to the text; they are not “Church Fathers,” but are (to quote the Holy Spirit) “children of hell” (Matt. 23; John 8)." -Dr. Peter S. Ruckman, Revelation Commentary
And you wonder why the hellbound gospel of Lordship Salvation is popular in Covenant Theology and championed by a Pseudo-Dispensationalists like MacArthur who throws REAL Dispensationalists under the bus. These moves of Satan are designed to thwart the distinction between Jew and Gentile, for this affects the Gospel of the Grace of God vs. the Gospel of the Kingdom, the Book of Hebrews, and Eschatology/Rapture Theology as a whole. You are witnessing the intelligence of Satan's scheme played out now that he's had millennia upon millennia of practice and careful planning: he was more subtle and relentless than you thought, Covenant Theologians. He pulled the old switcheroo on you and blinded you from what you were in fact doing.
God has always used a remnant who believed and were faithful to his word.
Not those of the majority following who Satan, the god of this world, makes popular.
Those people usually receive the worst end of it. But not before God reaches them with warning.
I'm not going to answer everything you wrote. It just a waste of my time. If I answer, you'll just ignore what I write to form your own narrative.
If you commit to go line by line, I will be glad to show just how wrong you are. Till you do, I'll give you what you give others....
Quote me saying that God has replaced the Jew with the Church. You can't. I haven't said. That is your false narrative to inject your false claims into the discussion.
A Jew was never established through the blood of Abraham. A Jew is only established by faith. Which is why Paul called Timothy his son.
You're the one dishonoring Christ. He alone is the physically promised SEED that came forth from the loins of Abraham. The ONLY PHYSICAL manifestation of THE heir/descendant who has ALL the promise of God given to Abraham.
Your theology replaces Jesus Christ with the unfaithful.
David died and lost his "kingship". So has every single king that preceded or proseeded David. Every single one of them died.
OUR KING lives forever more. ALL Jews live in Him.
treasure_unseen... you have been "defeated" with a video by Gene Kim! LOL!!!
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FSSL & Ransom: Having fun rough housing around, kids?
Here's an exercise for you: list out for us every single possible interpretation of that text you can think of.
I'll give you just one:
It means God is able to make anything, even stones, into "children of Abraham". But what are "children of Abraham"?
This is addressed right here [timestamped directly to point]:
You are missing the point: they are now talking TO THE JEWS about their spiritual birth TO COME. The Spirit WAS NOT YET GIVEN until Pentecost.
. . . Try analyzing the text based on every possible meaning it provides.
Here's an exercise for you: list out for us every single possible interpretation of that text you can think of.
I'll give you just one:
It means God is able to make anything, even stones, into "children of Abraham". But what are "children of Abraham"?
This is addressed right here [timestamped directly to point]:
This is a very pigeon-holed idea that comes from isolating a few verses in the NT and using them to go back and erase everything in the OT. God called his people "Israel", "Jews", throughout the entire OT. They already existed.
You are missing the point: they are now talking TO THE JEWS about their spiritual birth TO COME. The Spirit WAS NOT YET GIVEN until Pentecost.
Nobody asked about your kids, kid.
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