- Jan 26, 2012
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It is Dead around here! Somebody needs to stir things up! Where's TRB when we need him most?
And don't forget that wearing wire rimmed glasses is anathema. No revival would be complete without burning all eyeglasses except horn rimmed glasses.We should make it a rule that you can post ONLY if you’re wearing your Sunday best...as defined by those who walk the old path!
That will bring revival anywhere, any time.
Speaking of Finney, I've heard that he may have done more harm than good - anyone else hear this or believe this? I don't know much about him, so I'm not sure how accurate that assessment is.
"During ten years, hundreds, and perhaps thousands, were annually reported to be converted on all hands; but now it is admitted, that his (Finney's) real converts are comparatively few. It is declared, even by himself, that 'the great body of them are a disgrace to religion’; as a consequence of these defections, practical evils, great, terrible, and innumerable, are in various quarters rushing in on the Church." (Warfield, Studies in Perfectionism, vol. 2, I.1 (see this page)
The first thing we must note about the atonement, Finney says, is that Christ could not have died for anyone else’s sins than his own. His obedience to the law and his perfect righteousness were sufficient to save him, but could not legally be accepted on behalf of others. That Finney’s whole theology is driven by a passion for moral improvement is seen on this very point: "If he [Christ] had obeyed the Law as our substitute, then why should our own return to personal obedience be insisted upon as a sine qua non of our salvation" (p.206)? In other words, why would God insist that we save ourselves by our own obedience if Christ’s work was sufficient? The reader should recall the words of St. Paul in this regard, "I do not nullify the grace of God’, for if justification comes through the law, then Christ died for nothing." It would seem that Finney’s reply is one of agreement. The difference is, he has no difficulty believing both of those premises.