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  • voicecrying
    voicecrying reacted to illinoisguy's post in the thread The Pain Is Real with TRUTH! TRUTH!.
    Count me "rankled." "Furthermore, the word traditionally translated as 'obey' in Hebrews 13:17, peithō, often means 'persuade' (in the...
  • Bruh
    Bruh reacted to illinoisguy's post in the thread The Pain Is Real with TRUTH! TRUTH!.
    You do. (Although I recommend that married men consult with their better half). :cool:
  • Bruh
    Bruh replied to the thread The Pain Is Real.
    At this point nothing. During that time in our lives we weee taught to follow without question. We were taught even if the pastor gives...
  • J
    JimKnox replied to the thread Matthew 18.
    Seriously? Please provide more info and what prompted your question.
  • J
    JimKnox reacted to ALAYMAN's post in the thread Matthew 18 with TRUTH! TRUTH!.
    Assuming the proper method of church discipline is followed, yes. Whether restoration and repentance occur (the intended outcome), or...
  • Ransom
    Ransom replied to the thread The Pain Is Real.
    What makes you unable?
  • Ransom
    Ransom replied to the thread Matthew 18.
    What's to work or not to work? If you can reconcile a sinning brother and he repents, good. If not, protect the church. It's not really...
  • I
    illinoisguy replied to the thread The Pain Is Real.
    You do. (Although I recommend that married men consult with their better half). :cool:
  • ALAYMAN
    ALAYMAN replied to the thread The Pain Is Real.
    Amen! Worthy of being placed as a Sticky note atop the forum!
  • ALAYMAN
    ALAYMAN replied to the thread The Pain Is Real.
    If you were in a hardcore Hyles type church with a butthead insecure narcissist leading you then it’s extremely likely you were not...
  • Tarheel Baptist
    Tarheel Baptist replied to the thread The Pain Is Real.
    No one here has argued that a Pastor should or does have the right to blind loyalty. A true leader in any setting must earn trust by...
  • Bruh
    Bruh replied to the thread The Pain Is Real.
    We were in our twenties at the time and very impressionable as we got older into our 30’s we were getting tired. There was definitely...
  • ALAYMAN
    ALAYMAN replied to the thread The Pain Is Real.
    Did you do those things in service to Christ, or to please the pastor? That’s always a good place to start when evaluating our own...
  • ALAYMAN
    ALAYMAN replied to the thread Matthew 18.
    Assuming the proper method of church discipline is followed, yes. Whether restoration and repentance occur (the intended outcome), or...
  • Bruh
    Bruh replied to the thread The Pain Is Real.
    Ok you’ve answered my original question. We agree. It’s up to me to decide if the pastor has gone too far.
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