And how does this make them "elect"? Who elected 'em? What does "elect" even mean?
Well since they are a “ whosoever” God offered grace through faith and the “ whosoever” repented and placed their belief and faith in Jesus. Yep ,that is scriptural unlike Calvinism.
God offered grace to the “whosoever” when they believed repented, and placed their faith in Jesus they became part of the elect.
The above, ladies and gentlemen, is presented as an answer to "And how does this make them 'elect'? Who elected 'em? What does 'elect' even mean?" though it answers none of those questions.
The scriptural elect ladies and gents believe and trust scripture not the twisted Calvinist view. Calvinist find a verse that does not fit their dogma their common response is it does not mean what it says it means what we(Calvinist) tell you it means. No thanks.
Still aggressively avoiding a useful definition of "elect," I see.
Lol, if it isn’t in the verse just add your preferred dogma. The verse means we the saved which are those who believed, repented, and placed their faith in Jesus.
Elect according to what ?
And there you are, still babbling folderol like an infant.
I kinda figured you would ignore the scripture that proves election is based on God’s foreknowledge. That means God knew who would place their faith in Jesus and based on that foreknowledge God elected those who would believe. Nah I leave the infantile noise to those who do it best the calvinist who follow a 15th century man.
Your keyboards flappin', but you're not saying anything. Sad, really.....
There were others before Calvin...but you conveniently overlook that. I'm pretty sure April 1st is your major holiday.
You're not a Christian, either! You're proving that again, and again, and again! Thanks for proving our point.
I have seen at least a few times that in 1 John 1:3 the phrase "that you too may have fellowship with us" indicates that John was initially addressing the lost before moving on to address the believers.I've always appreciated your contributions to the forum and style of conversation. Just wanted to get that out of the way.
I think in making application it's important to keep context as king in making the determination for application. When we unhinge the truth that we seek to point out from its context then we are in effect putting words in God's mouth. The audience for 1st John 1:9 is clearly speaking to saved people. I think your point that unsaved people need forgiveness unto salvation is correct and easily provable from other places in scriptures, but rather than making this post lengthy, I just think that we ought to prove our theology from a sound hermeneutic which limits applications to the context that we're referencing, and 1st John 1:9 is speaking about fellowship for Christians who might be tempted to lie to themselves and say that they can live a life of sin and still remain in a right relationship to God's good grace.
I agree completely, an omniscient God already knows every decision I will make and the results of those decisions. That does not change the fact I have a freewill to make those decisions.Elect according to what ?1Pe 1:2 - Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father,through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. Did God know who would believe, repent, and place their faith in Jesus ? Scripture says yes.
Above your pay grade moron. I trust Jesus you not even a little bit.
Seems most here only give lip service to God. They do and say things a Christian wouldn’t, but hey it is who they are lip service that is it.
Heck. As the forum's newest false accuser, you're the current resident expert!
Lol, since you ain’t God you do not get to make that call. My faith is in Jesus NOT. You are a lousy representative of a supposed follower of Jesus.
