Eph 5:19, warrant for various music styles?

Psalms: obviously referring to the book of Davidic psalms, essentially the hymnal of the Jewish nation, the singing of which continued (and continues) to be enjoyed by Christians.

Hymns: Hymns were originally short poems or songs of praise to a deity or deities. The early Christians adopted the form for worshipping the true God.

Spiritual songs: "Songs" (literally "odes") seems to be a general term for other kinds of verse intended to be sung. The songs used in corporate worship ought to be limited to spiritual matters, but the term does seem to permit some liberty to sing of things other than direct praise of God--encouragement, exhortation, and so forth.

So suitable songs for corporate worship are those that are Scripture set to music, which glorify God and edify the saints.

As to "style," if the title of the thread is inquiring about musical genre, Eph. 5:19 (and Scripture as a whole) is silent. I think we can infer that if the early Christians adapted hymnody for their own use, they probably brought a few familiar tunes with it--which suggests that we needn't fear the use of contemporary musical genres in our own worship, either.

I'd say some genres have a disconnect between form and function (e.g. louder, more aggressive musical forms like heavy metal and its infinite variants), which would make them inappropriate for corporate worship, and better off listened to at home instead.
 
Here is an article that may be thought provoking. It is by someone in the LGBTQ community but what is interesting is the pragmatism and absolutely no appeal to the authority and sufficiency of the scriptures. What makes this relevant is that many Churches are headed straight down this path and music seems to be the main vehicle steering the "Church" in this direction.

Not music "Styles" but the influence of an ungodly industry who is making money off of Christians and desiring to infiltrate the Church with its wickedness!

The Queering of Contemporary Christian Music: 8 Big Names to Know
 
According to this article, the mechanical use of music was first by the Catholic Church, and was long prohibited by Protestant churches, including by Martin Luther. https://www.northwestcofc.org/why-d...chanical-instruments-of-music-in-worship.html
There is some merit to this although I have no use whatsoever for the Pelagian baptismal regeneration heresy of a bunch of waterdogs! I do believe it is important to keep CONGREGATIONAL worship at the forefront and a minimalist approach to musical accompaniment often helps this. I do like the congregational singing of some of these Churches though.
 
Psalms: obviously referring to the book of Davidic psalms, essentially the hymnal of the Jewish nation, the singing of which continued (and continues) to be enjoyed by Christians.

Hymns: Hymns were originally short poems or songs of praise to a deity or deities. The early Christians adopted the form for worshipping the true God.

Spiritual songs: "Songs" (literally "odes") seems to be a general term for other kinds of verse intended to be sung. The songs used in corporate worship ought to be limited to spiritual matters, but the term does seem to permit some liberty to sing of things other than direct praise of God--encouragement, exhortation, and so forth.

So suitable songs for corporate worship are those that are Scripture set to music, which glorify God and edify the saints.

As to "style," if the title of the thread is inquiring about musical genre, Eph. 5:19 (and Scripture as a whole) is silent. I think we can infer that if the early Christians adapted hymnody for their own use, they probably brought a few familiar tunes with it--which suggests that we needn't fear the use of contemporary musical genres in our own worship, either.

I'd say some genres have a disconnect between form and function (e.g. louder, more aggressive musical forms like heavy metal and its infinite variants), which would make them inappropriate for corporate worship, and better off listened to at home instead.

Lol, the “style” question or genre issue *was* in the back of my mind as one vein of thinking when I ask a question, mostly because I saw somebody in an online article justify contemporary Christian music on the basis of “spiritual songs”. It just seems that people really stretch exegesis in order to justify whatever they want to believe. I’m not against CCM, but neither am I going to try to use specious scriptural rationale to justify a genre that is based upon the time it is released. That’s just as bad as using the “old paths” passage to demand the church only doing things according to a standard of a 1950s cultural view of western Christianity.
 
According to this article, the mechanical use of music was first by the Catholic Church, and was long prohibited by Protestant churches, including by Martin Luther. https://www.northwestcofc.org/why-d...chanical-instruments-of-music-in-worship.html
If you want to do any further in-depth study of the perspective of those who prohibit instruments in corporate worship on the basis of the lack of authoritative warrant in the New Testament, especially those who believe such from the reformed tradition, you can Google something known as the regulative principle. From that rule, or standard of in biblical interpretation, it all boils down to whether Scriptures explicitly commands something and their opinion is, if it’s not explicitly commanded that it’s not warranted. The other perspective is known as the normative principle, which is what you will find in most evangelical churches, particularly of those the Baptist variety.
 
There is some merit to this although I have no use whatsoever for the Pelagian baptismal regeneration heresy of a bunch of waterdogs! I do believe it is important to keep CONGREGATIONAL worship at the forefront and a minimalist approach to musical accompaniment often helps this. I do like the congregational singing of some of these Churches though.

Not objecting to your observations, just probing for further explanation. When you say that the minimalist approach helps in congregational worship, I assume you mean that the worship experience has a larger susceptibility to an ego-driven “performance” mindset rather than a worshipful (directing praise towards God) mindset, is that correct? If so, why do you think that that is? Or are you suggesting that corporate worship should be essentially restricted to congregational, singing, not lead by “worship teams” up on a stage?
 
That is true. Instruments were brought into worship through Catholicism.
I’ll admit, I was unaware of this musical Catholic heritage until reading the article. However, I did know that in many American churches in the late 1800s/early 1900s, the use of pianos in worship were highly controversial due to the legacy of them being played in saloons and whatnot. The church sanctuary was considered a place too reverent for the use of a piano.
 
“speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭5‬:‭19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

What do you think the implications are for the different musical terms regarding corporate worship, if any?
Understanding that the singing and making melody described here is internal and private, (as well as the speaking), and that it is contrasted with drunkenness, if it has any implication for corporate worship, it would suggest the demeanor thereof, which would be sober and temperate, as opposed to the wildly exuberant manner of the dithyramb.
 
I’ll admit, I was unaware of this musical Catholic heritage until reading the article. However, I did know that in many American churches in the late 1800s/early 1900s, the use of pianos in worship were highly controversial due to the legacy of them being played in saloons and whatnot. The church sanctuary was considered a place too reverent for the use of a piano.
I've heard that, too. I think if we nixed the instruments in corporate worship, the music issue would be largely solved.
 
I've heard that, too. I think if we nixed the instruments in corporate worship, the music issue would be largely solved.
On the other hand, it shows that issue of church music is a moving target and there’s really no way of knowing who’s right and who’s wrong. Personally, it boils down to a smell test for me. If I’m in a church with what feels like more of a rock concert Hollywood production than a true praise of God, then it doesn’t pass the smell test in my book.
 
According to this article, the mechanical use of music was first by the Catholic Church, and was long prohibited by Protestant churches, including by Martin Luther. https://www.northwestcofc.org/why-d...chanical-instruments-of-music-in-worship.html
The quote from Luther is spurious, as apparently it occurs in none of his writings. Luther himself was skilled on the lute and a strong singer, he desired all Christians to be instructed in music, and he helped make numerous innovations to make church music accessible to the congregation--notably the chorale, a sacred Latin hymn translated into German and set to well-known sacred or secular melodies. As I recall, the Lutheran chorale is the origin of the modern SATB arrangement for choral music.

Remember, Johann Sebastian Bach was a Lutheran, and many of his best-known works are chorales or organ fugues (that "ensign of Baal"). George Frideric Handel was a Lutheran as well.

Luther believed in Christian liberty in worship, and that anything not specifically forbidden in the New Testament was permitted. That's the diametric opposite of the Church of Christ's regulative principle: that what is not specifically commanded in the New Testament is forbidden.

It was the second generation of reformers--John Calvin and his contemporaries--who called for a stricter regulation of worship, forbidding the use of instruments or the singing of non-scriptural hymns.

(Which, I must say, leaves the strong-Regulative Principled, exclusive psalmodists in a bit of a moral paradox: Psalm 150 is one of the few things they're allowed to sing in church, but they're not allowed to do what it says.)
 
(Which, I must say, leaves the strong-Regulative Principled, exclusive psalmodists in a bit of a moral paradox: Psalm 150 is one of the few things they're allowed to sing in church, but they're not allowed to do what it says.)
They're not allowed to do what Psalm 66 says to do either.
 
Understanding that the singing and making melody described here is internal and private, (as well as the speaking), and that it is contrasted with drunkenness, if it has any implication for corporate worship, it would suggest the demeanor thereof, which would be sober and temperate, as opposed to the wildly exuberant manner of the dithyramb.
What do you mean when you claim this singing is “private”?
 
It was the second generation of reformers--John Calvin and his contemporaries--who called for a stricter regulation of worship, forbidding the use of instruments or the singing of non-scriptural hymns.
When you say John Calvin and his contemporaries felt that way, was it because he/they viewed it as just unbecoming and irreverent, or did they view it as a sin to use instruments in worship?
 
Basically the former. As I recall, when Calvin took over as pastor in Geneva, there already wasn't music in the church. Secularism had been creeping into church music to the point that I guess they had declared it irredeemable and thrown it all out. They banned the instruments, too, because they were used to accompany the secularized music.

There's a myth I've heard that Calvin banned music entirely from Geneva. Not so. Genevans were perfectly free to play music at home. Calvin banished it from church.

The magisterial Reformers had a theology of worship, but no suitable music to accompany it. Luther had adapted what already existed to make it more congregation-friendly, but Calvin wanted to start from scratch. He supervised the creation of a psalter, and he hired Louis Bourgeois, one of the most popular French composers of the day, to write suitable music for it. He wrote some new tunes, and arranged or selected others. One of his melodies is amongst the most famous tunes in sacred music: the Old 100th ("Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow").

Like they had with Calvin himself, the local authorities harassed Bourgeois for changing the way they did things, to the point that he quit and went back to France.

The Genevan psalms were originally intended to be sung in unison, but there were harmony parts, and as people learned them, they found their way back into the church--as did the organ--a few decades after Calvin's death. I'm not convinced Calvin despised instrumental music. It just needed time to evolve into something suitable for Protestant worship.
 
It just needed time to evolve into something suitable for Protestant worship.
Great info…thanks for sharing. I guess I kind of, philosophically, approach modern CCM in churches this way. Most of it is usually not my cup of tea, but I also realize that, as you’ve pointed out, music in church has evolved over hundreds of years. What is taken as perfectly acceptable in even the most conservative churches today, at some point in history, would have been controversial at best, and perhaps blasphemous at worst. Anyway, just some rambling thoughts of mine.
 
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