Cussed out for leaving a paltry 25% tip

It's time for eating establishments to do away with tipping all together. I've been to a couple restaurants in Washington state where they discourage tipping. Instead, they notify diners they pay all employees "living wages" and they charge a service fee in lieu of collecting tips.

First off, I appreciate their being upfront and calling the fee a fee. It's NOT a gratuity. Second, this system makes sense from a worker's standpoint since taxes are assessed on a server's wages based on receipts, not actual tips. Therefore, a genuine cheapskate can really hurt a good server's bottom line... Thanks, Uncle Sam.

The couple times I have been to such restaurants, the service and food quality has been top notch and I walked out paying about what I would have under the other system.

I can also see this system working in the consumer's favor because if a restaurant is notorious for bad service and steep service fees, word will get out and such an establishment will fail to make it.
 
abcaines said:
It's time for eating establishments to do away with tipping all together. I've been to a couple restaurants in Washington state where they discourage tipping. Instead, they notify diners they pay all employees "living wages" and they charge a service fee in lieu of collecting tips.

First off, I appreciate their being upfront and calling the fee a fee. It's NOT a gratuity. Second, this system makes sense from a worker's standpoint since taxes are assessed on a server's wages based on receipts, not actual tips. Therefore, a genuine cheapskate can really hurt a good server's bottom line... Thanks, Uncle Sam.

The couple times I have been to such restaurants, the service and food quality has been top notch and I walked out paying about what I would have under the other system.

I can also see this system working in the consumer's favor because if a restaurant is notorious for bad service and steep service fees, word will get out and such an establishment will fail to make it.
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I was just watching something on the news the other day that was speaking about the no-tipping experiment that you are describing, but the conclusion that they came to was that businesses were finding that model to not be as effective as the tipping framework of business. I don’t have any problem with tipping per we, but for normal services, to claim 25% is not enough is just stupid. Pick a different job if you don’t like a customer adding 1/4 to their bill to support you.
 
I don't understand why someone would want to tip ahead of time! Tip based upon the service you have received meaning you tip AFTER THE FACT! I don't use door dash but other apps such as Uber Eats prompts you to tip after the food has been delivered! Come to my house delivering a pizza and acting like a butt? Guess what... NO TIP FOR YOU!!!!

I think you can also change the tip amount after the delivery as well so if this is the case, this young punk just screwed himself!

A $5 tip was quite generous and if everyone tipped that way, this young man would have a fairly decent day!
 
abcaines said:
I wonder why.
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They gave some kind of an answer, couched in gobbledygook business terms that I couldn’t quite follow but it sounded to me (or at least I interpreted it this way) like their profit margins shrunk as a result.
 
ALAYMAN said:
They gave some kind of an answer, couched in gobbledygook business terms that I couldn’t quite follow but it sounded to me (or at least I interpreted it this way) like their profit margins shrunk as a result.
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Well, profit margins tend to suffer when a restaurant pays wait staff more than $2.13/hour.

Government screws everything up by assessing taxes based on receipts regardless of the actual tips collected.

A service fee can take the guesswork out of the equation so long as the government doesn't interfere.
 
The people who work in food service are compensated like dogs. Just throw down if you're going to eat out or call for delivery.
 
I'll never forget one time, that we took a taxi from the New York City airport (Kennedy, I think) to Manhattan. (this was before Uber came on the scene). The driver (with his turban) never said a word to us as he drove but he slowly lifted his hand and placed it over the back seat towards us. He was wanting his tip. I will never forget that!!!!!
 
Ekklesian said:
The people who work in food service are compensated like dogs. Just throw down if you're going to eat out or call for delivery.
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The delivery guy got 25% for a tip and then decided that because the house was an expensive one that the homeowner should have given more than 25%, that’s the issue. By the “just throw down” logic it appears that you agree that the employee subjectively gets to demand whatever percentage they feel is appropriate. Is that what you believe?
 
ALAYMAN said:
By the “just throw down” logic it appears that you agree that the employee subjectively gets to demand whatever percentage they feel is appropriate. Is that what you believe?
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No, the driver was obviously a douchebag. I was just making a general statement.
 
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