Does Tone Matter?

subllibrm said:
Grooming who? The school board is going to sexually abuse the entire student body?
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In a manner of speaking, yes.


subllibrm said:
Did you read my working definition based on a professional psychologists explanation?
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You mean a "professional" who says that a boy believing he's a girl is perfectly healthy? Or a "professional" who believes an adolescent would benefit from injecting hormones into her body that weren't designed to be there then mutilation of her natural body is therapeutic? Not sure I'd put much stock in such a "professional's" explanation.
 
subllibrm said:
Grooming who? The school board is going to sexually abuse the entire student body? Did you read my working definition based on a professional psychologists explanation? What we have dealt with in forty years of marriage is way more than a dirty book on a library shelf. From my perspective using it in that way trivializes it to the point where real “groomers” are lost in the hyperbolic fog.
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"professional psychologist"?..... that;s like saying "professional clergy" without saying what kind of clergy...... what kind of psychologist was it..... a left wing liberal one?... or a conservative type?.... my sister has a phd in psychology and she is about as conservative right wing as they come....she is also a trump supporter...... .she would stand there and call these dirty book supporters in public schools pedophiles and probably a lot worse.... i probably would too if i was there and heard the whole story first hand.. and the books were as bad as you say....... .
 
aleshanee said:
you;re funny mr bill bus.... . you come in here accusing us all of having sold our souls to the orange devil... and of basically being swamp creatures swimming in right wing political muck... ..and then you try to lecture us on "tone" ...and how to properly deal with public school teachers turned lgbtq + radicals and left wing political activists... :ROFLMAO:.. .....you wouldn;t happen to be related to a public school teacher would you?.... ....sudden about faces and taking up the defense like you just did.. usually has a personal reason....:unsure: :sneaky:
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I find it funny that this all started when I said that Mr. Trump is vile and despicable. Y’all started defending your voting for him but I don’t recall anyone disagreeing with me on the original statement.
 
subllibrm said:
I don’t recall anyone disagreeing with me on the original statement.
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Probably not to the extent you put forth but plenty of folks said he has a problem with shooting off his mouth.

I think @Gringo said it best, that people say he's so vile because the media (which hates him) says so.

I also found it funny you couldn't come up with a single candidate you'd vote for.
 
abcaines said:
In a manner of speaking, yes.



You mean a "professional" who says that a boy believing he's a girl is perfectly healthy? Or a "professional" who believes an adolescent would benefit from injecting hormones into her body that weren't designed to be there then mutilation of her natural body is therapeutic? Not sure I'd put much stock in such a "professional's" explanation.
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Are you reading anything that I write?

The professional counselor my wife saw when the internal fallout of her childhood sexual abuse came to a head and nearly destroyed our marriage. I explained that in probably more detail than I should have. Grooming means something way beyond using it as a pejorative to score points in a mud slinging match. As I said elsewhere and told the local lady who loves to pour it on with that kind of rhetoric; without evidence of that the board members are plotting to personally sexually abuse a student(s) it is slander and libel.
 
subllibrm said:
I find it funny that this all started when I said that Mr. Trump is vile and despicable. Y’all started defending your voting for him but I don’t recall anyone disagreeing with me on the original statement.
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you mean the thread you called your rorschach test?.... yeah we saw it.... . what is this thread then? ... just another ink blot for the forum to evaluate?..... .. yeah we all see that too... and we recognized both ink blots as well.... ..they are both reflections of you - mr bill bus - and both in the shape of a troll...🧌... are you still having fun?..... .....what will your next ink splattering be?...... ..maybe you should take up the israel war with gaza issue - and see how that one turns out...... i have seen devout christians divided over that issue too... . and some of them are very passionate about their positions - whether for or against israel...... where do you stand on that issue?.... ..why limit trolling to just a couple of points?...
 
subllibrm said:
FWIW the first time I heard it used in the context of sexual abuse was when my wife was in counseling. Her counselor was very specific and singular with its application. The abuse was preceded by grooming done by a groomer. To say that a school board member is a groomer because of the availability of a book in the library is definitely a misuse.
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This one has apparently escaped notice.
 
subllibrm said:
Grooming who? The school board is going to sexually abuse the entire student body? Did you read my working definition based on a professional psychologists explanation? What we have dealt with in forty years of marriage is way more than a dirty book on a library shelf. From my perspective using it in that way trivializes it to the point where real “groomers” are lost in the hyperbolic fog.
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And this one.
 
aleshanee said:
you mean the thread you called your rorschach test?.... yeah we saw it.... . what is this thread then? ... just another ink blot for the forum to evaluate?..... .. yeah we all see that too... and we recognized both ink blots as well.... ..they are both reflections of you - mr bill bus - and both in the shape of a troll...🧌... are you still having fun?..... .....what will your next ink splattering be?...... ..maybe you should take up the israel war with gaza issue - and see how that one turns out...... i have seen devout christians divided over that issue too... . and some of them are very passionate about their positions - whether for or against israel...... where do you stand on that issue?.... ..why limit trolling to just a couple of points?...
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I called it that because of the way people reacted to it. I will admit that it was intended for a little nose tweaking. The reactions surprised me. Particularly the assumptions made about me.
 
subllibrm said:
Are you reading anything that I write?

The professional counselor my wife saw when the internal fallout of her childhood sexual abuse came to a head and nearly destroyed our marriage. I explained that in probably more detail than I should have. Grooming means something way beyond using it as a pejorative to score points in a mud slinging match. As I said elsewhere and told the local lady who loves to pour it on with that kind of rhetoric; without evidence of that the board members are plotting to personally sexually abuse a student(s) it is slander and libel.
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I hate to nit pick but if you were referring to a specific psychologist, the lack of an apostrophe made it seem as though you were referring to a body of psychologists.

The ones who are doing the grooming are the authors of the books in question. Those who are making these books available to the kids are complicit in the crime. (It may not be a crime in the legal sense though not that long ago, it was).
 
subllibrm said:
I have noticed that no one has taken up the mantle to defend the use of pedophile in the same context and often in the same sentence.
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a) it's probably libelous 99% of the time; b) it's a canard that homosexual == pedophile; and c) if I want to find news stories about sexually abusive teachers, I don't have to look as far as the gender activist ones.
 
subllibrm said:
Grooming who? The school board is going to sexually abuse the entire student body? Did you read my working definition based on a professional psychologists explanation? What we have dealt with in forty years of marriage is way more than a dirty book on a library shelf. From my perspective using it in that way trivializes it to the point where real “groomers” are lost in the hyperbolic fog.
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The sexually explicit books that cannot be read at a public school board meeting are defended by the librarians and school boards.

Tell us how this is different from grooming? You seem to imply only an individual can groom another individual. Sexual propaganda set in place by a librarian or a group of board members IS grooming.

It's not a problem of a single "dirty book." These schools have a bunch of pedophiliac, gay sex and extreme sexual content. You seem to be minimizing the threat.
 
subllibrm said:
I’m going to need for you to identify your “victims”. And the “lapses in grace” are intentional and planned. They are not a case of someone losing control in an emotional moment.
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The children being abused and their parents. That's quite obvious. Your revisionism is noted.
 
aleshanee said:
you;re funny mr bill bus.... . you come in here accusing us all of having sold our souls to the orange devil... and of basically being swamp creatures swimming in right wing political muck... ..and then you try to lecture us on "tone" ...and how to properly and descretely deal with public school teachers turned lgbtq+ radicals and left wing political activists... :ROFLMAO:.. .....you wouldn;t happen to be related to a public school teacher would you?.... ....sudden about faces and taking up the defense like you just did - usually has a personal reason....:unsure: :sneaky:
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Yes, it's a typical liberal tactic to try to appear conservative and devout while neutralizing opposition to their agenda.
 
FSSL said:
The sexually explicit books that cannot be read at a public school board meeting are defended by the librarians and school boards.

Tell us how this is different from grooming? You seem to imply only an individual can groom another individual. Sexual propaganda set in place by a librarian or a group of board members IS grooming.

It's not a problem of a single "dirty book." These schools have a bunch of pedophiliac, gay sex and extreme sexual content. You seem to be minimizing the threat.
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Then the definition has changed which has been my point all along. The uncle who "groomed" my wife as a 4 year old and abused her until she was 10 is a whole different level than how you folks are using the term. In my mind the minimization is in the other direction by the elevation/equation of worldview disagreements with actively sexually assaulting a child. Worse accusing them of doing so for their own sexual gratification as the lady I referred to has done.

I "seem" to be a lot of things when folks back fill my post with their assumptions. Note the responses when I said that I voted with my nose plugged. Apparently it "seems" that even if I vote for the "correct" candidate it doesn't count because my nose was plugged. Note two, y'all has assumed my voting record without asking me for my voting record.
 
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Ekklesian said:
🧐 Ummm...
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Duly noted. He is great guy with an impeccable family track record and is the epitome of a faithful husband. I stand corrected both in my OP and having missed your passionate correction of my error.
 
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