how can you say you are against abortion when your stiff necked adherence to an ideal principle that cannot be put into practice, enables the very people who would abort and kill the most babies to take power?...... . ..your stand outside the camp enables liberals and causes more children to be aborted than would be otherwise... ... . i know you claim you are standing on principle but it;s one i cannot respect when it allows more innocent blood to be shed than would have under a better but flawed president, just so you can say you didn;t compromise....Unless we are for it.
Because ... political expediency.
When politics and policy matter more than principle.
Being unequally yoked gets nasty sometimes.
The same Trump who opposes the Arizona decision?And Trump.
You seem to have a knack for stating the obvious, idiot!Unless we are for it.
Because ... political expediency.
When politics and policy matter more than principle.
Being unequally yoked gets nasty sometimes.
The same Trump who already constitutionally got Roe v Wade eliminated. Why is a political maneuver, within Constitutional parameters, wrong?The same Trump who opposes the Arizona decision?
The Lord bless you as well.You seem to have a knack for stating the obvious, idiot!
So what is he opposing? The court ruled on the constitutionality of the existing law. They found that it is constitutional within that state. Isn't that what overturning Roe was supposed to be about?The same Trump who already constitutionally got Roe v Wade eliminated. Why is a political maneuver, within Constitutional parameters, wrong?
We can debate about abortion exceptions in relation to rape and incest while losing the fight altogether.
Political expediency is not in conflict with Christian principles. We need to be "wise as serpents."
your idea of "purity" and "holiness" seems to be if you can;t have everything - don;t have anything at all.... a failed perfectionist - is that it?..... ..nobody here is deriding purity... just your flawed interpretation of it - which is very self centered.... .So what is he opposing? The court ruled on the constitutionality of the existing law. They found that it is constitutional within that state. Isn't that what overturning Roe was supposed to be about?
I am amazed by the stalwart proplifers here deriding "purity". Do the babies care whether they are aborted legally in Michigan rather than (for the time being) illegally in Arizona?
Some trust in Gallup polls.
We are to be Holy as He is Holy. I am part of a Royal Priesthood, a child of the KIng, an ambassador for Jesus in a dying world. To subjugate that to a political party or philosophy is the worldliness we are told to separate from. Maybe Fundies should have been preaching about that instead hair length and music styles.
I will stick with the instructions from God and let Him worry about the success or failure. Jericho made no sense but Joshua followed the Lord's instructions. Achan thought that God wouldn't mind a little looting and it cost him his life along with many others. And that peace treaty Joshua signed, that worked out well for Israel.your idea of "purity" and "holiness" seems to be if you can;t have everything - don;t have anything at all.... a failed perfectionist - is that it?..... ..nobody here is deriding purity... just your flawed interpretation of it - which is very self centered.... .
..... again... you remind me of jonah... ... and trust me.. as someone who lives in a family of deep sea mariners i know a few things about jonah... .....
I give out gospel tracts and witness as best as I can. People are going to be offended by confronting them with the gospel no matter what. Quit using the excuse of Christians trying to be good citizens and voting according to conscience with perverting the gospel. We don't have a King but a President and congressional leaders which God has given us the privilege of voting for. Your view of whatever will be will be is nothing but fatalism. God is in control but we are still responsible for our conduct as citizens of the United States as well.I am curious about how the message of redemption is understood when mixed in with political talking points. Or more importantly if it is heard at all. We are supposed to be reaching the lost for Christ. Sadly, our message is leavened with a message that is not concerned with the redemption of sinners. Remember, a little leaven leavens the whole lump.
As to "them" when we look out and can see them as nothing but degenerates, it blinds us to the fact that they are the fields in need of harvest. Every one of them is an image bearer of God, made in His likeness and is lost and going to hell. It seems that we would rather harness the power of government to mow down those fields rather than wade into their world to share Jesus. So I have been waiting for someone to explain how the political process is going to bring in the sheaves. God has told us how to do it but that isn't pragmatic or realistic so we decided to do it a different way. As Dr. Phil would say, how's that working for you?
how can you say you are against abortion when your stiff necked adherence to an ideal principle that cannot be put into practice, enables the very people who would abort and kill the most babies to take power?...... . ..your stand outside the camp enables liberals and causes more children to be aborted than would be otherwise... ... . i know you claim you are standing on principle but it;s one i cannot respect when it allows more innocent blood to be shed than would have under a better but flawed president, just so you can say you didn;t compromise....
... and can obedient Christians have differing opinions on this?Are you against abortions in the case of rape and incest?
180 degrees out my friend. I am not a fatalist. I am a man who believes that God can and will change this country IF His people will follow His precepts. Yet the ongoing theory here has been that God's principles won't work in our current situation.I give out gospel tracts and witness as best as I can. People are going to be offended by confronting them with the gospel no matter what. Quit using the excuse of Christians trying to be good citizens and voting according to conscience with perverting the gospel. We don't have a King but a President and congressional leaders which God has given us the privilege of voting for. Your view of whatever will be will be is nothing but fatalism. God is in control but we are still responsible for our conduct as citizens of the United States as well.
Give other Christians the liberty to be involved in government or not. You are a fatalist no matter what you say. Name one person who meets your standard of righteousness. Quit denigrating Christians who don't follow your beliefs.180 degrees out my friend. I am not a fatalist. I am a man who believes that God can and will change this country IF His people will follow His precepts. Yet the ongoing theory here has been that God's principles won't work in our current situation.
Again, you have fallen into the nonsense idea that I have told any of you who you can and can't vote for. My point is and has been that the unholy marriage of the church to the political process is the problem. This has been true going back at least to Reagan. We have foolishly put our hopes in men to solve spiritual problems. In that time we have come to point where the average American can't distinguish between a Christian and a Republican. Your vote doesn't pervert the gospel (and I never said that it did). The plan of salvation and ugly political rhetoric coming out the same mouth does. The gospel has come to be seen as little more than a republican talking point. And if someone dares to point out that this is a problem, oh how the wrath is unleashed (this is the cue for someone to call me an idiot).