Convicting. Or Should Be.

biscuit1953 said:
Ekklesian™: He says he can prove that Israel is not Israel and that they are responsible for anti-Semitism because he can quote a Jewish Rabbi and a Holocaust survivor.
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LOL. Well, Zionists and the anti-Zionists can't both be right.

Which group is lying? Do you think the group that's stacking the most bodies is a clue? When you decide which it is, perhaps you should start a thread and borrow a revision of Luther's title...On These Jews and Their Lies
 
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Ransom said:
And you believe him? You realize what religion rabbis believe, right?
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I believe he's certified Jewish enough to criticize Israel™. Kinda hard to call him anti-Semitic and a Jew-hater and stay on your high horse.

Wh-what's that? Is that the earth moving beneath your feet?
 
Ekklesian said:
I believe he's certified Jewish enough to criticize Israel™. Kinda hard to call him anti-Semitic and a Jew-hater and stay on your high horse.

Wh-what's that? Is that the earth moving beneath your feet?
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Jew-lover asks what now?
 
I am puzzled by all this talk about how Iran or Iranians want to "kill all the Jews." I wonder how many people are aware that since the time of the first Iranian constitution in 1906 until now, there has been a seat reserved in the Iranian parliament for a Jewish member.

Iranian Parliament religious minority reserved seats - Wikipedia

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During World War 2, when millions of Jews were being murdered by Europeans, Iranian Jews were living ordinary lives and going about their business, without persecution.
 
illinoisguy said:
I am puzzled by all this talk about how Iran or Iranians want to "kill all the Jews." I wonder how many people are aware that since the time of the first Iranian constitution in 1906 until now, there has been a seat reserved in the Iranian parliament for a Jewish member.

Iranian Parliament religious minority reserved seats - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

During World War 2, when millions of Jews were being murdered by Europeans, Iranian Jews were living ordinary lives and going about their business, without persecution.
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The Islamic Republic began in 1979.
Here is a pretty good explanation of Jews who live in Iran.

jewishjournal.com

What Will Become of the Jews of Iran? Part One

American Jews, by and large, don’t know enough about Iranian Jewry. That is why I want to help readers understand more about this ancient community and what is at stake for its present, as well as its future.
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Here's an excerpt from a Wikipedia article on freedom of religion in Iran:

However, the adherents of religions not specifically protected under the Constitution do not enjoy freedom of activity, nor do Muslims who convert to another religion. Constitutional protections of freedom of belief are tempered by the fact that the death penalty has been imposed on the basis of vague charges, such as “‘attempts against the security of the state,’ ‘outrage against high-ranking officials,’ and ‘insults against the memory of Imam Khomeini and against the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic,’” and has been imposed on the basis of crimes like "drug smuggling" that religious (and political) dissidents have no plausible connection with.[8] While there is no specific law against apostasy, courts can hand down the death penalty for apostasy to ex-Muslims, and have done so in previous years, based on their interpretation of Sharia’a law and fatwas (legal opinions or decrees issued by Islamic religious leaders).[8] There are laws against blasphemy and the punishment is death.
Go to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Iran

To read the full article.
 
illinoisguy said:
I am puzzled by all this talk about how Iran or Iranians want to "kill all the Jews." I wonder how many people are aware that since the time of the first Iranian constitution in 1906 until now, there has been a seat reserved in the Iranian parliament for a Jewish member.
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To my recollection, in the last few years there have been four major groups that have launched rocket attacks on Israel: Iran itself, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis. Hezbollah and the Houthis are Shia groups (Hamas is Sunni), and Iran backs all three. All of them have the elimination of Israel as a political goal. Iran is the primary sponsor of terrorism in the Middle East, and most of that is directed against Israel.

So yes, it's clear that one of Iran's political goals is destroying Israel and killing Jews: they finance the people that want to destroy Israel and kill Jews. Middle Eastern terrorism is, by and large, made up of Iranian proxies.
 
Ekk's position, Readers Digest version:

State of Israel (1948) and the Biblical nation of Israel are not the same thing. Any biblical reference or prophecy naming Israel is a reference to the latter and does not apply to the former.
 
subllibrm said:
Ekk's position, Readers Digest version:

State of Israel (1948) and the Biblical nation of Israel are not the same thing. Any biblical reference or prophecy naming Israel is a reference to the latter and does not apply to the former.
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I basically agree…but don’t hate Jews.
 
subllibrm said:
Ekk's position, Readers Digest version:

State of Israel (1948) and the Biblical nation of Israel are not the same thing. Any biblical reference or prophecy naming Israel is a reference to the latter and does not apply to the former.
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I don't disagree with that, as far as it goes. However, the conclusion that therefore, the modern State of Israel is evil or unworthy of political support, doesn't follow.
 
Ransom said:
I don't disagree with that, as far as it goes. However, the conclusion that therefore, the modern State of Israel is evil or unworthy of political support, doesn't follow.
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I'm with you on that because that's the issue he is addressing. I was just pointing out that continuing to appeal to prophecy in an attempt to debate him is going to fail unless one is able to prove those passages apply to the State of Israel today.
 
Ransom said:
I don't disagree with that, as far as it goes. However, the conclusion that therefore, the modern State of Israel is evil or unworthy of political support, doesn't follow.
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Now it can be judged as any other racist, apartheid nation.
 
Ekklesian said:
The very thing you're agreeing with is the whole basis of your accusations. Now you have to show us where I've expressed any Jew hatred.
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No it’s not. You’ve just ignored any post that didn’t fit your narrative….like those on the left who also hate Jews.

The modern state of Israel is not Biblical Israel.
The modern state of Israel is a strategic and valuable ally because of many factors.
Both of those things are true.

P.S. I can believe both of those things and still be a Premillennial!
 
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Ekklesian said:
Now it can be judged as any other racist, apartheid nation.
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Well, don't let us stop you. Have fun.

Funny how you don't seem to be able to do that without appropriating the empty racist rhetoric of the "progressives," though.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
No it’s not. You’ve just ignored any post that didn’t fit your narrative….like those on the left who also hate Jews.

The modern state of Israel is not Biblical Israel.
The modern state of Israel is a strategic and valuable ally because of many factors.
Both of those things are true.

P.S. I can believe both of those things and still be a Premillennial!
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LOL. In other words...you can't

But do tell me more about your exemption from the Ninth Commandment.
 
Just Scripture:

The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers... - Tit 2:3

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