Alien Intrusion...

Ekklesian said:
20 million people in the US claim to have seen a UFO, and 4 million claim to have been abducted. ​
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There is something serious going on. Anybody who's seen or experienced these things will tell you they are real, but how do you investigate something that appears and disappears? ​
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Despite the claims of there being crashed craft, there are none, but the do leave marks...lights can go off, strange magnetic forces appear...they're looking at the evidence and they're coming to a conclusion it's coming from aother realm or dimension. ​
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But here's the real kicker, Scott: There's cases where these abductions have been halted by people calling on the name of Jesus Christ.​

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The so called aliens are demons in disguise, as satan updates based upon the current tech of the time period and mindset, so was once fairies, now space aliens
 
Ransom said:
Seems to me this is an instance of the existential fallacy. We can't say extraterrestrials are actually demons, until we first know there are extraterrestrials.

Of all the planets in the universe we know of, we know of only one capable of supporting life. That's no statistical basis for saying there must be life on others. And if there's no life on other planets, then supposed extraterrestrial sightings on earth are either mistakes, delusions, or hoaxes. There's no need to invoke the devil as the cause of those, when the world and the flesh explain them just fine.
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You have a way of expressing what I think, but you make it sound much more intelligent.....lol.
 
abcaines said:
So you are saying our planet might be isolated because of our sin? :sneaky:
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We are certainly hindered providentially from "reaching our full potential" are we not?

Gen 11:6 is an interesting passage but the ultimate conclusion is tied to man's total depravity:

Genesis 11:6 - And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

What therefore would have happened had God kept the descendents of Noah of "one language and one speech" and allowed them to continue about in the direction they were taking?

How is the world becoming "unified" today? Is the prevailing attitude friendly or hostile towards the Living God?

What if God did not set the cherub with the flaming sword to prevent mankind from partaking of the "tree of life?"
 
Ekklesian said:
I think the Cross was always the plan. The Creation of the Sabbath Day testifies of our Sabbath Rest, which is Christ.
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I agree. But the scriptures also clearly state that what God has created, he made "good" and "very good!"

What do you think the "New heavens and new earth wherein dwelleth righteousness" will look like? I am convinced that we spend an eternity of eternities going about exploring and discovering the wonders of God's creation!
 
Jo said:
You have a way of expressing what I think, but you make it sound much more intelligent.....lol.
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John Keel had the right idea, but he could not see God in the picture, as he concluded that basically God was either mad or impersonal, as was the sum of all energies and intelligent, more like the sentient Force
 
Baptist Renegade said:
I agree. But the scriptures also clearly state that what God has created, he made "good" and "very good!"
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Yes, they do.

Baptist Renegade said:
What do you think the "New heavens and new earth wherein dwelleth righteousness" will look like?
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I'm not sure. I think it will be glorious.

Baptist Renegade said:
I am convinced that we spend an eternity of eternities going about exploring and discovering the wonders of God's creation!
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If today, morning by morning new mercies we see, why not wonders upon wonders on that day?
 
abcaines said:
Aliens... Most people who are convinced of extraterrestrial 👽 beings seem to like to use this topic to divert attention from their accountability to God. "What about aliens on other planets?" They ask. My response is simple: "So what? How does the existence of aliens change our accountability to God?"
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Aliens not aliens from another planet, but vistors from another realm/reality, demonic
 
Ransom said:
In Another Land, actually. Love the album overall, but this song in particular isn't his best work. Christ's return isn't as an" unidentified flying object"--it's as a conquering king whom the whole world will see, recognize, and lament. I realize the song is tongue-in-cheek, but it's still dodgy theology.

Given that the crucifixion and resurrection are the central event of human history, if there were aliens and a plan of salvation for them, you'd think it would merit at least a mention somewhere in the Bible. Perhaps they remain unfallen, which seems unlikely, since Adam's fall had implications for all of creation. Or they fell, and Jesus went to their planet and died too, which seems abhorrent, and i consistent with the Scriptures that say Christ's atoning work came to an end. Or there's no hope of salvation for them at all. Or they don't exist at all, which is the least complicated explanation and most consistent with the evidence we have.
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Would say aliens are not from Outer Space, but are demonic manifestations form their realm into ours
 
JesusFan said:
Would say aliens are not from Outer Space, but are demonic manifestations form their realm into ours
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As I've said before, I'd say show me that aliens exist, first, then we can figure out where they're from.
 
Ransom said:
As I've said before, I'd say show me that aliens exist, first, then we can figure out where they're from.
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Not aliens, but do they they have been interacting with manking very long time, as 'Ghosts/fairies, now space aliens"
 
JesusFan said:
Not aliens, but do they they have been interacting with manking very long time, as 'Ghosts/fairies, now space aliens"
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Same problem. With the ghosts and fairies, as with aliens, you're going immediately to "they're demons" without first stopping to question whether they're real. That's a logical fallacy. You can't assert facts about the nature of a thing unless you have first established that the thing exists.

What if they are, in fact, made up--and the most concrete reality behind ghosts and fairies is actually ghost stories and fairy tales?
 
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Ransom said:
Same problem. With the ghosts and fairies, as with aliens, you're going immediately to "they're demons" without first stopping to question whether they're real. That's a logical fallacy. You can't assert facts about the nature of a thing unless you have first established that the thing exists.

What if they are, in fact, made up--and the most concrete reality behind ghosts and fairies is actually ghost stories and fairy tales?
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good point, but we do not from the perspective of the Bible, from God Himself, that angels and demons exist and both have been involved in affairs of mankind from beginning of human history
 
JesusFan said:
good point, but we do not from the perspective of the Bible, from God Himself, that angels and demons exist and both have been involved in affairs of mankind from beginning of human history
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It's the same issue I would have with the saucer nuts. They see an aircraft they can't readily identify, and they assume it's space aliens. But it could be misidentification, hoax, hallucination, any number of perfectly natural things. People who say UFOs are demons make the same fundamental error: they jump to their assumptions first.

Sure demons are active in the world. That doesn't mean that whenever I can't readily explain something, I default to demons.
 
Ransom said:
It's the same issue I would have with the saucer nuts. They see an aircraft they can't readily identify, and they assume it's space aliens. But it could be misidentification, hoax, hallucination, any number of perfectly natural things. People who say UFOs are demons make the same fundamental error: they jump to their assumptions first.

Sure demons are active in the world. That doesn't mean that whenever I can't readily explain something, I default to demons.
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true, but just so many people have claimed meeting so called space aliens, and I do not say all were liars or mentally ill, just that they were duped by satan
 
But the accounts of alien abduction have been deeply probed. (No pun intended.) The 'abuctees' really believe these things happened to them. Add to that, that those who invoked the name of Jesus found relief from their torments.
 
Ekklesian said:
But the accounts of alien abduction have been deeply probed. (No pun intended.) The 'abuctees' really believe these things happened to them. Add to that, that those who invoked the name of Jesus found relief from their torments.
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Just seems to have uncanny similarities to fairies ghosts spirits so called, as those involves missing time, altered states, just wondering if vast majority of people involved in these things dabbled in occult before, and wonder if their so called visitations re all mental images, not really physically taken on board ships
 
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