How many Think that thr Niv 2011 and Nas 2020 were good upgrades?

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As to myself, both seemed to be leaning too far into becoming more gender inclusive in their choices regrading translation?
 
JesusFan said:
As to myself, both seemed to be leaning too far into becoming more gender inclusive in their choices regrading translation?
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I believe that is why my pastor doesn't care for them. He seldom quotes from NIV and if he quotes from NAS he uses whatever came earlier than 1984.

Myself, I like the Berean Standard and the ESV.
 
My thought was that the NIV 2011 was a met improvement over the previous revision. I've got no opinion on the new NASB.
 
abcaines said:
I believe that is why my pastor doesn't care for them. He seldom quotes from NIV and if he quotes from NAS he uses whatever came earlier than 1984.

Myself, I like the Berean Standard and the ESV.
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I have used both 1977 and 1995 Nas, just seemed like th 2020 reads too much like a Niv now
 
I was really mad at the TNIV. Is that the same as the 2011 NIV? The gender inclusion is invalid in translation theory.
 
Bob Jones VI said:
I was really mad at the TNIV. Is that the same as the 2011 NIV? The gender inclusion is invalid in translation theory.
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While not the exact same translation, it would agree with the 2005 tniv much more so then the 1984 Niv edition.
Just seemed to have been updated based upon an agenda, to undercut the traditional roles of men and women in the bible, to reflect more current 'cultural understanding"
 
Bob Jones VI said:
I was really mad at the TNIV. Is that the same as the 2011 NIV? The gender inclusion is invalid in translation theory.
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No. The TNIV was completed in 2005. It was kind of a disaster. The NIV 2011 is overall a bit more conservative a revision, though it retains a few of the TNIV's nods to inclusive language. As did the ESV, for that matter, though the translators called it "gender accurate" rather than "gender inclusive." It was a response to the earlier NIV International. The TNIV and NIVI have been discontinued.
 
Baptist City Holdout said:
I'm concerned about copyright restrictions.
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What reasonable use does the copyright on the NIV prevent? The usual copyright on Bibles permits the use of 500 verses without requiring permission. To give some perspective, that is the equivalent of starting at the beginning and reaching Exodus 9:10. I assume, for example, you're not looking to print and sell your own copies.
 
Ransom said:
No. The TNIV was completed in 2005. It was kind of a disaster. The NIV 2011 is overall a bit more conservative a revision, though it retains a few of the TNIV's nods to inclusive language. As did the ESV, for that matter, though the translators called it "gender accurate" rather than "gender inclusive." It was a response to the earlier NIV International. The TNIV and NIVI have been discontinued.
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Thankfully they were discontinued, but wish that Zondervan had decided to keep selling the 1984 Niv along side that revision, but have a hunch that even they understood that more would still keep buying and using the older version more so then their latest one
 
Ransom said:
What reasonable use does the copyright on the NIV prevent? The usual copyright on Bibles permits the use of 500 verses without requiring permission. To give some perspective, that is the equivalent of starting at the beginning and reaching Exodus 9:10. I assume, for example, you're not looking to print and sell your own copies.
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Try that with I John.
"As long as it is not an entire book."
 
abcaines said:
A Bible study on 3John?
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To be published? Then the publisher should deal with copyright clearances.

If it's just a photocopy handout for your small group, it's hardly an issue. You don't need to print the book in its entirety--just read it, or trust people will follow along in their own Bibles
 
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