Trump targets Iran's Supreme Leader in first wave of joint attack with Israel as Tehran strikes back at US bases across region and at Tel Aviv

aleshanee said:
cowardice is cowardice no matter who the people in danger that someone is refusing to help are.
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Odds are that you're a match for someone needing a liver or a heart.

Is it cowardice that you're not giving yours up for them?

What is IsraelTM's claim on American blood?
 
Ekklesian said:
Odds are that you're a match for someone needing a liver or a heart.

Is it cowardice that you're not giving yours up for them?

What is IsraelTM's claim on American blood?
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those odds are among the worst in the world.... ..... i don;t qualify as an organ donor... .. i am not even qualified to donate blood..... and even if i was nobody in the legitimate medical community would harvest those 2 organs from a living person since the result would leave them dead..... .....

you are a man of many prejudgices - continually pushing conspiracy theories and false assumptions.... but if you can honestly believe this war is being fought entirely on behalf of israel... or that iran does not pose a derect threat to u.s. security..... then you are also either truly ignorant or a closet muslim yourself.....

i am not allowed to say much more than this. ... but my families involvement in both the u.s. military and private contractor to the military world is extensive.... .more than one are serving over there right now.... ..and i would be there with them if i could qualify for military service.....
 
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aleshanee said:
those odds are among the worst in the world.... ..... i don;t qualify as an organ donor... .. i am not even qualified to donate blood..... and even if i was nobody in the legitimate medical community would harvest those 2 organs from a living person since the result would leave them dead..... .....
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But if not for that, you'd shed organs like sycamore seeds in a windstorm if it would help a stranger. :rolleyes:

But if you did qualify...your sister and some pagan in Norway need a kidney. You're a match for both. Who gets it?

Heck...forget your sister. Someone in Norway needs one of your kidneys to survive. Does she get it?

Why not? Is it cowardice?

I think I'd be very choosey for whom I would kill and/or die, let alone for whom I would send my child to do the same.


aleshanee said:
if you can honestly believe this war is being fought entirely on behalf of israel... or that iran does not pose a derect threat to u.s. security..... then you are either truly ignorant or a closet muslim yourself.....
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Haven't you heard? I just hate the Joos. :rolleyes: Of course no one really believes that ...well... Troolheel Baptist might, but look of whom we're speaking...

Anyway, no one really believes I hate Jews. Not even you. It's just that no one has answers when their arbitrary Zionist presuppositions are challenged, and are shown to be unbiblical, and when their imagined history of the people there is proven to be propaganda.

Here's the truth. The Church is Israel. Not Judaism, and neither is that counterfeit state of thieves and liars that is usurping Her Name. The state is the product of a century and a half of arm-twisting and cajoling of Western governments, and of siren singing to gullible and foolish Christians by atheistic, elitist, Zionist Jews, so called.

To move in, they had to kill, and displace the Palestinians, Muslim and Christian alike, and steal their lands and houses.

So, whether or not the military strikes are "entirely" on the behalf of Israel™ —they are— even being somewhat on their behalf would still taint the whole operation and render the American deaths tragic, not heroic. Because, there is no viable reason for the importance of the existence of that state, or why America should finance it's wars or send her sons to bleed and die for it. There is no benefit whatever. War and debt are what we reap for the support of Israel™. But what else is to be expected when underwriting a lie?

The only 'threat' Iran poses to America is because of America's support for Israel™


aleshanee said:
i am not allowed to say much more than this. ... but my families involvement in both the u.s. military and private contractor to the military world is extensive.... .more than one are serving over there right now.... ..and i would be there with them if i could qualify for military service.....
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LOL. What kind of security clearance to you have? I would say you're not allowed to even know much more than you've revealed, and anything you do know is not a secret...unless someone broke the law. 😳
 
I wasn’t alive at the time, but for some of you who are old enough, I’d imagine that Vietnam was also sold as a war that must be fought for the sake of America’s security. Find a few actual Vietnam veterans and see if they agree.

I am old enough to know the war in Iraq was peddled that way, especially with the phony pictures of WMDs. I happen to have a couple relatives who fought in that war. They no longer believe that war in Iraq was because it was a threat to America.

I don’t think Iran is anymore a threat to America than China, Russia and many other countries. But keep telling us about what the “real insiders” know that we can’t be privileged to know. 🙄
 
Ekklesian said:
LOL. What kind of security clearance to you have? I would say you're not allowed to even know much more than you've revealed, and anything you do know is not a secret...unless someone broke the law. 😳
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None. Just a bunch of hot air.
 
DrHuk&Duck said:
I wasn’t alive at the time, but for some of you who are old enough, I’d imagine that Vietnam was also sold as a war that must be fought for the sake of America’s security. Find a few actual Vietnam veterans and see if they agree.

I am old enough to know the war in Iraq was peddled that way, especially with the phony pictures of WMDs. I happen to have a couple relatives who fought in that war. They no longer believe that war in Iraq was because it was a threat to America.

I don’t think Iran is anymore a threat to America than China, Russia and many other countries. But keep telling us about what the “real insiders” know that we can’t be privileged to know. 🙄
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It was the WMD’sand then they would continue to move the reasons all over the place. They killed their own people, the woman can’t read, the women can’t drive, the women have to dress a certain way. They need to become westerners, they need McDonald’s and malls and yellow brick roads.

Exactly what they are saying now. It’s all over the place.

I have a friend that is consider to me a best friend in high school who went over there. One night over some beers late into the night he explained to me what happened.

His job was at a check point and if the vehicle didn’t stop they were ordered to shoot the vehicle up. Well, the vehicle didn’t stop, they shot the vehicle up and there were children in the vehicle shot to death. From 2 years old to at least 10 years old he said.

Crying like a baby tears rolling down his face sobbing, literally moaning in front of me, a groan man moaning whaling…he said, and for what, for what?

Why? Because they were doing what Iran is said to be doing. We leave Afghanistan 20 plus years later………

What about our veterans? What about the veterans hospitals? What about the homeless veterans, what about the suicide rate of our veterans? What about the the veterans that are addicted to drugs to be able and try to mentally deal with what they did over there?

Yeah, run into a burning building for Americans first all day before the Jooos. I have no issues with that.

America First all day erry day! Yeah that’s right I said it that way, erry day!!
 
aleshanee said:
how would you know?..... have you ever done either of those jobs?...........

cowardice is cowardice no matter who the people in danger that someone is refusing to help are... ... and that;s exactly how recruiters at police and fire departments look at it.... so does the military.... ...

but maybe you can go to his job interview with him and explain the differences to them yourself - since you are so experienced and knowledgable.. ..:rolleyes:.. .. i doubt they will listen to an 18 year old trying to tell them what his daddy said..... ..
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And one more thing, it’s our governments fault not mine that my son will not be able to fulfill his dream of becoming a United States Marine.

I’m 50 years old and I know what it is to not have a dream fulfilled. And it breaks my heart to watch my 18 year son struggle with this.
 
It’s official, boots on the ground.
 
Bruh said:
It was the WMD’sand then they would continue to move the reasons all over the place. They killed their own people, the woman can’t read, the women can’t drive, the women have to dress a certain way. They need to become westerners, they need McDonald’s and malls and yellow brick roads.

Exactly what they are saying now. It’s all over the place.

I have a friend that is consider to me a best friend in high school who went over there. One night over some beers late into the night he explained to me what happened.

His job was at a check point and if the vehicle didn’t stop they were ordered to shoot the vehicle up. Well, the vehicle didn’t stop, they shot the vehicle up and there were children in the vehicle shot to death. From 2 years old to at least 10 years old he said.

Crying like a baby tears rolling down his face sobbing, literally moaning in front of me, a groan man moaning whaling…he said, and for what, for what?

Why? Because they were doing what Iran is said to be doing. We leave Afghanistan 20 plus years later………

What about our veterans? What about the veterans hospitals? What about the homeless veterans, what about the suicide rate of our veterans? What about the the veterans that are addicted to drugs to be able and try to mentally deal with what they did over there?

Yeah, run into a burning building for Americans first all day before the Jooos. I have no issues with that.

America First all day erry day! Yeah that’s right I said it that way, erry day!!
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All that being said….it is ultimately your son’s decision. I know you’ve given your thoughts. Hopefully you’ll be supportive regardless of which path he chooses.
 
DrHuk&Duck said:
All that being said….it is ultimately your son’s decision. I know you’ve given your thoughts. Hopefully you’ll be supportive regardless of which path he chooses.
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Of course I will! And I also support the troops that are enlisted now and the ones that join now.

But I believe his decision is not to join. Just had a conversation with him. He said, (his words) I’m gonna go talk to the recruiter face to face and tell him I’m not joining and tell him my reasons.

And told him, I think that’s a good idea to do it face to face.
 
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