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[Ransom]

I'm not good with the names of particular argumentation tactics like Ransom. But I do recognize that your thinking process is very similar to the "if we can put a man on the moon why can't we....?" logic. If it has a special name I will leave it to someone else to present it to us.

Literally called "appeal to the moon" or argumentum ad lunam. It's a faulty analogy: if we can expend the effort and expense to solve this problem, we should be able to do the same for any problem. The analogy breaks down because sending astronauts to the moon was a relatively simple engineering problem. Doing something like solving homelessness or curing cancer involves many more variables such as human behaviour or biology, which, unlike orbital mechanics, don't always behave in predictable ways.

"The government lied here so we can't trust anything they say, ever" is a hasty generalization. Skepticism is warranted; like the song says, we don't want to get fooled again. As you point out, it's not the same "they"--we're on the fourth administration since the Iraq war began in 2003.[1] I doubt they pass down notes reminding their successors they need to keep lying. Second, "the government" consists of millions of employees and I don't know how many dozens or hundreds of departments. Inconceivable that they would all be lying in unison.

[1] I wanted to count the administrations since the Vietnam war, but Bruh would accuse me of having too much time on my hands.

 

[JimKnox]

It was a blatant lie, this is a fact I don’t believe anyone refutes at this point. Therefore, how can they be trusted.

How many times does someone need to lie to you before you stop believing anything they say.

Everything is built on trust. People died in Iraq. Moms, dads, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins, sons, daughters not to mention the innocent children that died. This is a reality that people here in America continue to live with. All because our government lied to us. Just like our government lied about Vietnam.

Does this make sense?

So please explain to me why now are they 100% telling you the truth?

Dude!
Are you seriously going to make the illogical jump that people in 1968 lied to your grandparents therefore DIFFERENT people in 2003 lied to your parents?
Seriously?
Do you proofread?
Iraq does not equal Vietnam does not equal Iran.

 

[Bruh]

You are still arguing for the same weak conclusion. They lied (which I agree with btw) so that means they are lying.

The distortion of information and WMDs to justify the invasion of Iraq have been proven to be misused at best. That was nearly 25 years ago. Your conclusion that they are lying is problematic for two reasons. 1. This is a completely different "they" running the country. 2. While time may prove that there have been lies, it is too soon for us to know that. In essence you are arguing for your gut instincts, not verifiable facts.

I'm not good with the names of particular argumentation tactics like Ransom. But I do recognize that your thinking process is very similar to the "if we can put a man on the moon why can't we....?" logic. If it has a special name I will leave it to someone else to present it to us.

Ok I think I understand what you’re saying.

It was a different administration that sent us into Vietnam so logically the Bush Jr. administration we should trust because they gave us the American people testimony by Colen Powell saying they had WMDs. And if memory serves me correctly they presented documentation along with video.

So again, logic tells the American people to trust this administration for the simple fact that this administration is not the same as the Vietnam administration and once again this administration is not the Bush Jr. administration it’s an entirely different administration so therefore the American people are fools for not trusting the Trump administration because obviously the Trump administration is much different than all the others with the tax breaks for the corporations and all.

Is this what youre saying? If so, then sure I can understand why people would trust this Trump administration like we did all the others.

And I’m the one with the low I.Q

 

[Bruh]

Dude!
Are you seriously going to make the illogical jump that people in 1968 lied to your grandparents therefore DIFFERENT people in 2003 lied to your parents?
Seriously?
Do you proofread?
Iraq does not equal Vietnam does not equal Iran.

have at it let me know how that turns out for you.

 

[Bruh]

Dude!
Are you seriously going to make the illogical jump that people in 1968 lied to your grandparents therefore DIFFERENT people in 2003 lied to your parents?
Seriously?
Do you proofread?
Iraq does not equal Vietnam does not equal Iran.

Look this up you may find it interesting. I don’t know how old you are but I specifically remember Ted Kennedy saying that Iraq was another Vietnam. Man did he get criticized.

Did our government lie to the American people about Vietnam?
Did our government lie to the American people about Iraq?

“Some of you may die, but it’s a sacrifice I am willing to make.”

This is how you people sound.

 

[Bruh]

“Some of you may die, but it’s a sacrifice I am willing to make.”

This is how you people sound. Very trusting at the expense of the lives of others loved ones.

 

[Bruh]

You skipped this:

Take up gardening, maybe his church has a track he can walk around….how bout…… mow the lawn maybe less time on the internet would produce a girlfriend…the people skills would probably need some work though.

 

[Ransom]

Ok I think I understand what you’re saying.

And you go on to demonstrate that you don't.

I'd suggest you stop playing the fool, but by now I doubt you're playing.

 

[Bruh]

And you go on to demonstrate that you don't.

I'd suggest you stop playing the fool, but by now I doubt you're playing.

I could say the same thing about you

Wow! Again I’m amazed how you people can believe whatever is put before you by our government.

I’m curious, do know anyone or have loved ones that served in the Middle East and saw combat?

 

[Ransom]

I could say the same thing about you

Only because you didn't have to think about it yourself.

 

[Ransom]

I’m curious, do know anyone or have loved ones that served in the Middle East and saw combat?

Supposedly, but they work for the government, so I don't believe them.

 

[Bruh]

Only because you didn't have to think about it yourself.

No it’s true.

 

[Bruh]

Supposedly, but they work for the government, so I don't believe them.

“Some of you may die, but it’s a sacrifice I am willing to make.”

This is how you people sound. Very trusting at the expense of the lives of others loved ones.

 

[Ransom]

No it’s true.

You missed my point, so let me explain. You lack the capacity to think for yourself. All you can do is imitate what other people say. This is because you are not intelligent.

 

[Ransom]

“Some of you may die, but it’s a sacrifice I am willing to make.”

This is how you people sound. Very trusting at the expense of the lives of others loved ones.

Pbtltbptlbtpbtlbtptbltpbtpttpbptbptptbltp.

This is how you sound.

If the government lied about Vietnam, how can I trust an army corporal to tell the truth?

 

[Bruh]

You missed my point, so let me explain. You lack the capacity to think for yourself. All you can do is imitate what other people say. This is because you are not intelligent.

Read it to my wife and we looked at each other and started laughing.

You entertain me.

 

[Bruh]

Pbtltbptlbtpbtlbtptbltpbtpttpbptbptptbltp.

This is how you sound.

If the government lied about Vietnam, how can I trust an army corporal to tell the truth?

I would say, let me know how that turns out for you but you have not sacrificed family and friends. So it will mean absolutely nothing to you. Because you have no children you need not worry about them going to die for nothing.

When this happens again in 20 years you’ll still be saying, it’s a different government idiot.

You have nothing at stake.

 

[Ransom]

When this happens again in 20 years you’ll still be saying, it’s a different government idiot.

I'm saying the corporal is lying to me now, meathead. He's a government agent.

 

[Jo]

And you go on to demonstrate that you don't.

I'd suggest you stop playing the fool, but by now I doubt you're playing.

That's a great quote! I'm using it from now on.

 

[Bruh]

I'm saying the corporal is lying to me now, meathead. He's a government agent.

The Trump administration is lying to you Ransom.

I’ve come to the conclusion that some people aren’t able to entertain the idea that their leaders in church or government are capable of wrong doing or evil. It is easier and safer to blindly trust.

We all know the saying, ignorance is bliss.

People do not want to deal with the reality that the world isn’t what they thought it was and they choose to live in denial.

For example, we’re Americans our government would never do that. Or we’re Christian’s men in our church don’t hit their wives or children. Other countries lie to their people with propaganda but not our country we’ve never done that. Our country would never mislead us like other countries. We are the good guys!