Kenny Baldwin

So you agree that all in membership should be aware. What about the general public? For example, going to Walmart.
You continue to blur the lines between church and state. But to answer your obfuscation, if the law of the land were to mandate they must publicly identify by some sort of physical sign while in public I would not object.
 
You continue to blur the lines between church and state. But to answer your obfuscation, if the law of the land were to mandate they must publicly identify by some sort of physical sign while in public I would not object.
“obfuscation” you asked me I’m only asking your opinion in return. That’s only fair, isn’t it?
 
“obfuscation” you asked me I’m only asking your opinion in return. That’s only fair, isn’t it?
Bringing issues of legality (the state) into how the church implements their morals and ethics is blurring lines (obfuscation). The state believes it’s ok to murder a baby in the womb. Should the church follow suit in its preaching about abortion?
 
Bringing issues of legality (the state) into how the church implements their morals and ethics is blurring lines (obfuscation). The state believes it’s ok to murder a baby in the womb. Should the church follow suit in its preaching about abortion?
No of course not.
 
No of course not.
Okay, then you must understand the irrelevance of the implication in your question to me about tagging a molester in public places like Walmart, right?
 
Okay, then you must understand the irrelevance of the implication in your question to me about tagging a molester in public places like Walmart, right?
You asked me if I would be ok with it. And I said I wouldn’t be against it. I’m other words, you asked first. 😂 it was your question. So if it’s irrelevant, your question originally was irrelevant. I was just asking you in return.
 
I asked you what? Dude, put the bong down.
Post#150 = “So should the former (presumably repentant) molester have to wear some external identification so everyone is aware of their former crime? Should we keep them from Walmart and public places where children might be present?”

You asked first. And all I did was ask your thoughts on the same question you asked me.
 
Post#150 = “So should the former (presumably repentant) molester have to wear some external identification so everyone is aware of their former crime? Should we keep them from Walmart and public places where children might be present?”

You asked first. And all I did was ask your thoughts on the same question you asked me.
It was post 140. That was hyperbolic rhetoric. In other words, the obvious expected answer to my question then was “no”. For homework, see Reductio ad absurdum. And my question, rhetorical as it was, stemmed from the statement (about removing them completely from access to the public) you made early in the thread in post# 48 “I personally believe that there is no room for these kind of people in my community much less the church I attend”
 
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Please elaborate as to your experience and rationale.
Over my 4 decades of pastoring we dealt with this issue about 4 times. In only one instance did we allow the convicted offender to attend…attached at the hip to a deacon. This was a young adult man who had grown up in our church. He was convicted of having child porn on his computer….don’t remember exactly how it all came about but he was never suspected or accused of improper contact with a child.

The 3 other times, we decided that it was better overall for our ministry to decline to have them attend. Our children’s ministry had an excellent reputation in our community….our VBS averaged over 1000 kids per night.

We decided that it’s hard to encourage parents to trust us with their kids on one hand and allow convicted, registered child molesters to attend our services. We weighed the options and did what we thought best for our church.
 
Over my 4 decades of pastoring we dealt with this issue about 4 times. In only one instance did we allow the convicted offender to attend…attached at the hip to a deacon. This was a young adult man who had grown up in our church. He was convicted of having child porn on his computer….don’t remember exactly how it all came about but he was never suspected or accused of improper contact with a child.

The 3 other times, we decided that it was better overall for our ministry to decline to have them attend. Our children’s ministry had an excellent reputation in our community….our VBS averaged over 1000 kids per night.

We decided that it’s hard to encourage parents to trust us with their kids on one hand and allow convicted, registered child molesters to attend our services. We weighed the options and did what we thought best for our church.
“We decided that it’s hard to encourage parents to trust us with their kids on one hand and allow convicted, registered child molesters to attend our services.“

I agree, it’s about protecting the vulnerable.
 
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Over my 4 decades of pastoring we dealt with this issue about 4 times. In only one instance did we allow the convicted offender to attend…attached at the hip to a deacon. This was a young adult man who had grown up in our church. He was convicted of having child porn on his computer….don’t remember exactly how it all came about but he was never suspected or accused of improper contact with a child.

The 3 other times, we decided that it was better overall for our ministry to decline to have them attend. Our children’s ministry had an excellent reputation in our community….our VBS averaged over 1000 kids per night.

We decided that it’s hard to encourage parents to trust us with their kids on one hand and allow convicted, registered child molesters to attend our services. We weighed the options and did what we thought best for our church.
I fully respect that 👍🏻
 
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