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Matt 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.


Does this passage describe "the rapture", the Second Coming (or other)?
 
ALAYMAN said:
Matt 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.


Does this passage describe "the rapture", the Second Coming (or other)?
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Compare Mt 24:40-42 with Lk 17:34-37 and it becomes clear that you would want to be the one that is LEFT BEHIND!
 
Since immediately preceding that, it says it will be like the days of Noah where the wicked were swept away, it seems pretty clear the ones left behind are the saved.
 
ALAYMAN said:
Does this passage describe "the rapture", the Second Coming (or other)?
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Matthew 24:41-42, "Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.'" Again, this passage is in that discourse in which the Lord outlines His program for Israel, who is already in the tribulation period. The one taken is taken to judgment and the one left is left for the millennial blessing. Such is not the prospect for the church. (J. Dwight Pentecost, Things to Come [Zondervan, 1964], 162.)

The unbelievers will be taken away in the day of judgment and wrath; the others will be left on the earth to receive and enjoy the blessings of the coming age and enter into the kingdom, which will then be established. It is the opposite meaning of "taken" and "left" when the Lord comes as the "Bridegroom" for His church. Then, too, some will be taken and others left.... The context, however, shows (the reference to Noah and the flood) that this must be the meaning. Surely those who were taken by the flood were not "received into glory." (A. C. Gaebelein, The Annotated Bible, https://biblehub.com/commentaries/gaebelein/matthew/24.htm)​

Seems that even the standard Dispensational view is that the ones taken are taken for judgment. As a non-Dispensationalist I would agree, not merely because I don't believe in the Rapture, but based on the plain sense of the text.

So the pop-Dispensationalists get it exactly backward. I don't know whether to blame A Thief in the Night, Larry Norman, both, or other.
 
The Parable of the Ten Virgins would seem to indicate that the ones left were the ones unprepared.

I think a closer look at the example of Noah is warranted. Noah and his family and the animals were taken into the ark, and the ark lifted them above the earth, while those left faced judgment, which was immediate.

And we, who are living at the sounding of the last trump will be caught up with the Lord in the air when He returns, and those left, are left to face judgement, which I also think to be immediate.

And so, when two women are grinding at the mill, and one is taken, and the other left, we only read into it that the other is left upon the earth for some intermediary time prior to the final judgment.

In answer to the OP, I believe it to be speaking to the Lord's Second Advent.
 
He is coming again. He will return bodily and visibly.
 
My question is why are so many people expecting Him to appear as He did at the triumphal entry rather than as He is described in Revelations? I suspect our preparations for that day will be heavily influenced by which image we of Him we are preparing for.
 
subllibrm said:
My question is why are so many people expecting Him to appear as He did at the triumphal entry rather than as He is described in Revelations? I suspect our preparations for that day will be heavily influenced by which image we of Him we are preparing for.
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Woe to you who long for the Day of the LORD! What will the Day of the LORD be for you? It will be darkness and not light... Amos 5:18
 
ALAYMAN said:
Matt 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.


Does this passage describe "the rapture", the Second Coming (or other)?
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The second coming. The "left behind " ones will enter the millennium.
 
I think Alayman must have been taken right after he posted his question.
 
voicecrying said:
I think Alayman must have been taken right after he posted his question.
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Lol, I think I’ve said this before on here, but eschatology may be my weakest theological area, so I am probing things of that nature right now and not about to be very dogmatic. I plan on revisiting this thread after some more study. As you can expect from my roots, I have only been exposed to pre-millennial and pre-tribulation (dispensational) concepts. So I am working my way through the hermeneutucal apparatus for the differing schools of thought.
 
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ALAYMAN said:
Lol, I think I’ve said this before on here, but eschatology may be my weakest theological area, so I am probing things of that nature right now and not about to be very dogmatic. I plan on revisiting this thread after some more study. As you can expect from my roots, I have only been exposed to pre-millennial and pre-tribulation (dispensational) concepts. So I am working my way through the hermeneutucal apparatus for the differing schools of thought.
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I read this book last year. I found it helpful in understanding some of the differing schools of thought.

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