Understood, just thought I'd up the ante some!
Calvin vs Arminius
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Not the question I asked, I will ask once again:
Does God decree all things that come to pass?
I do not believe I have even said that I am Calvinist myself. The implications of my question to you goes far beyond the Calvinism/Arminianism debate. It goes straight to the issue of whether God is actually God!
And also note that many here disagreeing with you are not Calvinist at all.
Whether you disagree with Calvinism or not, you are guilty of slander and obviously could care less about the truth of the matter! YOU ARE BEARING FALSE WITNESS!
Represent Calvinism honestly and accurately then tell us where you disagree and why. I may or may not agree with you but you will have gained my respect.
As it stands right now, you are just an idiot troll and hardly worth my time.
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SissyThat's what I am thankful for most here. No one has called me names in response to my posts.
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Glad to have you as my friend brother.
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A coworker was told by her mother that she should be glad that the other kids picked on her. "If they don't pick on you, they will pick on someone else"“they only do it because they like you“
I'm sure that made her feel better.
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A coworker was told by her mother that she should be glad that the other kids picked on her. "If they don't pick on you, they will pick on someone else"
I'm sure that made her feel better.
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A great example of what's recently been called "toxic empathy." She could, reasonably, downplay her daughter's victimhood by saying it could have been worse, or something along those lines, without denying that she was, indeed, a victim. Instead, she virtue signals her moral superiority by minimizing the harm done to her daughter and rationalizing that being victimized was actually a good thing, but also absolving the bullies of any blame for their actions.
I wonder, in a Christian context, how easy it is to manipulate some people into believing that such is "Christ-like," becaue it's essentially an altruistic, substitutionary sacrifice to save "someone else" (however abstract) from a similar fate.
Here's another classic example:
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A coworker was told by her mother that she should be glad that the other kids picked on her. "If they don't pick on you, they will pick on someone else"
I'm sure that made her feel better.
Apropos to this thread, a side note to JimKnox: This is what fatalism looks like, you illiterate.
I don't respond well to SOMEONE SCREAMING AT ME.
JSYK.
I did answer your question quite thoroughly.
See items 1-5 above.
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Is "does God decree everything" the right question? Or should the question be, "does anything happen that is outside of His will?"
God didn't say, "Let there be darkness." It was just there upon the face of the deep.
Someone might argue that darkness is nothing. Maybe so, but God gave it a name, Night, and uses darkness and night as metaphors or evil and ignorance.
Does the night come without the will of God?
God didn't say, "Let there be darkness." It was just there upon the face of the deep.
Someone might argue that darkness is nothing. Maybe so, but God gave it a name, Night, and uses darkness and night as metaphors or evil and ignorance.
Does the night come without the will of God?