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What’s weird about it? And do you think you could ever not have contempt against such a person? OK, you made yourself clear that your contempt is for the one who has offended. So, do you have contempt for those who try to minister to them and would allow them in their congregation with the...

So which do you have more contempt for, the offender who wants to grow in grace with the help of other Christians, or the Church who wants to do the helping?

Yes, as I said very recently in this thread (you may have not read that far yet), the victim within the congregation would be prioritized so as not to cause further pain and trauma by being forced to choose between church attendance vs the congregation having a former pedophile in attendance.

I think that you’re looking to use the Bible to back up what you want to believe, rather than letting the Bible inform your values/ethics/morals, at least to some extent (for this issue). I understand your revulsion at the extreme heinous depravity of this particular sin, and truth be told, it...

Your attitude and intent so far has shown you intend to do nothing less. Long on retribution, vengeance, and judgment. Short on rightly divided Scripture, the gospel, and forgiveness. As I’ve said earlier, you’re in plentiful company within cultural Christianity.

I’m willing to disciple them, hold them accountable, and to see them be victorious as they grow in sanctification.

Because they are Christians.

Do you think those temptations go away for the Christian when they are outside of the assembly?

No, I am saying that it appears that from your contempt and revulsion of their disgusting sin that you are unwilling to allow them the privilege of fellowship in the here and now. In heaven, there will be no lack of harmony or unity.

Two things that are good takeaways from what you said. Number one, any person who has been violated or abused ought to, as soon as they’re capable, report the offender to a trusted authority and get counseling if possible. Number two, awareness is a great thing when it comes to knowledge of and...

I totally agree with this. If there are victims of the offender in the church who are not able to cope with the trauma then their safety and security should be the higher priority. In addition, one of the modern outcroppings of Ministry is the idea of “cell groups”, which is where smaller...

You present a false dichotomy. It is possible and advisable to do both.

You’re going to spend eternity worshipping with some, you might start working on those implications in the here and now. In the appropriate capital murder sense, yes. For my entire life I have believed that pedophiles and rapist should be castrated, either chemically or otherwise. I believe...

Because just a couple of posts earlier you said “Looks like the death penalty for child molesters as well.” So you clearly seem to believe the death penalty is authorized by Scripture for this offense. If that’s the correct implication (hint: it’s not), then either it’s the church or state...

Do you think that the Church should execute offenders?

Lots and lots of wisdom here, I will revisit this later. We have our last night of VBS this evening and it is super busy as you might expect.

The Dove Awards are a convention for church discipline?

Yeah, I agree with all that, and the church in your video handled that employment situation very poorly. Having said that, there are proper ways for a church to handle offenders who have paid their legal debt to society and genuinely repented of their sin.

You do realize that this notion of forgiveness and church attendance for offenders isn’t unique to IFBs, right? You think the article I linked to was sponsored by an IFB group? You should learn to expand your perspective of thinking beyond the small circle you’ve been in. I would have said that...