Attack on Progressive Christians

T-Bone said:
subllibrm said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
<snip> I didn't read it....but probably would consider myself a critic of so called christians who defend sodomy and gay marriage!
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They named you by name and said that ya'll were ganging up on the poor guy.

Or I got the wrong guy. But even if it ain't you the story is still true that the poor guy was being ganged up on by those bible believing neanderthals.
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Hey you all...they named me by name.  David Felten the progressive pastor is a liar and a big baby.  Even when it was stated clearly that this was not about him...he proceeded to call in a lot of media, read liberal groups, so he could become the martyr.  He is deceptive and along with this latest piece, have changed the truth about the purpose of our joint series.  We did not even deal with the homosexual issue, but David is a big proponent of it, so he tried to make it about that.  The quote they used from me was in the local paper and it was about a series of teaches Felten was doing many months before our series. The two are not related at all.
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T-Bone said:
Here is what you can know about progressives...they deny the tolerance that they demand of others toward them.  They don't like to be exposed for the heretics they are.  They are spiritually dead as they deny the basic truths of who Jesus is and what He did.  And they are liars...warping even the events of this whole thing to make themselves into the victims.
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Quite a broad brush there. Are some like that? Sure. But just like calling all fundamentalists "Spamdersons" is a broad brush, so is assuming even the majority of Progressives are like that.

T-Bone said:
David Felten is an apostate who is proud of this if you don't believe me go to your browser and put in  apostate.church  ...see what pops up.
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I know nothing about Felten other than what little I have read about the whole situation. From the limited reading of Progressives I've read, I had never heard of him. He grabbed headlines for about 2 weeks and then his 5 minutes of fame in a koi pond disappeared. He keeps trying to make himself relevant which indicates he is grasping at the notoriety instead of practicing social justice like the majority of Progressives. Some have jumped on his bandwagon but many, many others have not.
 
Actually this is not a "broad brush"  let them speak for themselves.  Go to their main website.

ProgressiveChristianity.org
 
https://youtu.be/4iNyE_1qA58?list=PLA5F611B84092EE55

https://youtu.be/ypHNvW5B5HI?list=PLA5F611B84092EE55

https://youtu.be/ppmDw9iGjNA?list=PLA5F611B84092EE55

https://youtu.be/zHFDepyaJqo?list=PLA5F611B84092EE55

More than enough to prove my statement.

As for Felten...well he is what he is, an apostate and deceiver...everything else flows from that.
 
rsc2a said:
Words change meaning. It's quite simple. One doesn't have to accept the morality of SSM to recognize the change in definition.
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Which is why I wish I had the time and money to prove my point by filing civil rights lawsuits against people who won't call me a lesbian.

Lesbians would (rightly in my opinion) be ticked off if people changed the meaning of the word to include heterosexual males.  So I don't feel guilty for being ticked that gays are changing the meaning of marriage.
 
The Rogue Tomato said:
rsc2a said:
Words change meaning. It's quite simple. One doesn't have to accept the morality of SSM to recognize the change in definition.
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Which is why I wish I had the time and money to prove my point by filing civil rights lawsuits against people who won't call me a lesbian.

Lesbians would (rightly in my opinion) be ticked off if people changed the meaning of the word to include heterosexual males.  So I don't feel guilty for being ticked that gays are changing the meaning of marriage.
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Well literally now means figuratively so anything is possible, ;)
 
T-Bone said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
What do you believe?
What do you agree with?
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I will say this: the Progressives in Arizona who made a big to-do about this were way too whiny for my taste.

If someone has a belief in something and chooses to stand with others who are being attacked (in this case, standing with the gay community), confrontation and umbrage should be expected. Jesus clearly stated that people who stand for right can potentially be in conflict with those who are religious and believing they are doing God a favor in their actions.

It takes two to fight and IMHO, the Progressives should have just let the tornado run through the town and be there to be the light of Christ to those whom they were defending, rather than take up the sword of cyber media to cry about the conflict.
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One huge problem...they cannot give the light of Christ that they don't have!
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Some do, some don't. Same goes with Southern Baptists, Evangelicals, Adventists, Catholics, etc.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
T-Bone said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
What do you believe?
What do you agree with?
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I will say this: the Progressives in Arizona who made a big to-do about this were way too whiny for my taste.

If someone has a belief in something and chooses to stand with others who are being attacked (in this case, standing with the gay community), confrontation and umbrage should be expected. Jesus clearly stated that people who stand for right can potentially be in conflict with those who are religious and believing they are doing God a favor in their actions.

It takes two to fight and IMHO, the Progressives should have just let the tornado run through the town and be there to be the light of Christ to those whom they were defending, rather than take up the sword of cyber media to cry about the conflict.
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One huge problem...they cannot give the light of Christ that they don't have!
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Some do, some don't. Same goes with Southern Baptists, Evangelicals, Adventists, Catholics, etc.
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While it is true that not all SBC, Evangelicals,etc. have the light of Christ.  By the definition given from themselves progressive place themselves outside of orthodox Christianity.  You cannot deny God, the deity and resurrection of Jesus, the need of His atoning death and still be a believer in Jesus.  Not the Jesus of the Bible.  That is the key difference.  And progressives attempt to change them meaning of words and who Jesus is, leave them with no real light to share!
 
T-Bone said:
https://youtu.be/4iNyE_1qA58?list=PLA5F611B84092EE55

https://youtu.be/ypHNvW5B5HI?list=PLA5F611B84092EE55

https://youtu.be/ppmDw9iGjNA?list=PLA5F611B84092EE55

https://youtu.be/zHFDepyaJqo?list=PLA5F611B84092EE55

More than enough to prove my statement.

As for Felten...well he is what he is, an apostate and deceiver...everything else flows from that.
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Felten (whoever he is) aside, those videos seem to prove my point. Your broad brush:

Here is what you can know about progressives...they deny the tolerance that they demand of others toward them.  They don't like to be exposed for the heretics they are.  They are spiritually dead as they deny the basic truths of who Jesus is and what He did.  And they are liars...warping even the events of this whole thing to make themselves into the victims.
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Setting theological differences aside, those videos do not at all reflect a martyr complex you describe, to which I was inferring. You are applying personal contact with a specific tribe to an entire network of Progressives who are living what Christ taught instead of crying about being victimized. You wouldn't attribute all IFB to the Hyles or Jones, Sr. ilk. Nor would would attribute all Evangelicals with Driscoll or Furtick. In the same way, Progressives are very much different and independent in theology and practice.
 
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/03/17/im-a-presbyterian-minister-who-doesnt-believe-in-god-2/

"I'm an atheist and it upsets me that you don't consider me a Christian."
 
Smellin Coffee said:
rsc2a said:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/03/17/im-a-presbyterian-minister-who-doesnt-believe-in-god-2/

"I'm an atheist and it upsets me that you don't consider me a Christian."
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And then there's Frank Schaeffer, the son of the late theologian Francis Schaeffer, who claims to be an atheist who believes in God.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/frank-schaeffer-atheist_n_5489696.html
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Well, Frank has been on the nut fringe for quite a while.  Such a statement is just stupid.  But it fits well in the time we live in when nothing means what it means...so you can have a person claim to be an atheist (which has a definition) and still say they believe in God.  Simply bazaar!
 
The Rogue Tomato said:
rsc2a said:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/03/17/im-a-presbyterian-minister-who-doesnt-believe-in-god-2/

"I'm an atheist and it upsets me that you don't consider me a Christian."
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Why not?  Bruce Jenner is a woman, Rachel Dolezal is black, Liz Warren is an indian (native american), Bobby Jindal is NOT an Indian, and black conservatives aren't black.  And I'm a heterosexual male who identifies as a lesbian.

It's sort of like opposite day on steroids.
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Or, just another day in Liberal-land!  :)
 
These Christians were "attacked"-

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And these Christians were "attacked"-


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...but I seriously doubt any of the proggies mentioned in this churlish piece were...
 
Reformed Guy said:
These Christians were "attacked"-

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And these Christians were "attacked"-


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...but I seriously doubt any of the proggies mentioned in this churlish piece were...
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We don't agree on much but on this, I'm with you.
 
IMO, 'Progressive Christian'...as reference in the OP...is an oxymoron.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
IMO, 'Progressive Christian'...as reference in the OP...is an oxymoron.
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So true...they are actually neither!
 
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