Bible Version Thoughts - Translation from KJV to Spanish

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If someone takes the KJV and uses this to translate the Bible into Spanish ... well, is this translation also a perfectly preserved Bible?

I ask because if someone took the KJV and used it to model a Bible with updated English ... well, wouldn't that be the same as a KJV to Spanish Bible?

To say the KJV is the preserved word of God seems to ignore all other languages. Giving them a disadvantage.

So - with this in mind, how can it be any different to have multiple English translations? After all, God seems to use multiple translations of different languages to edify.

Something to think about ....
 
Timothy said:
If someone takes the KJV and uses this to translate the Bible into Spanish ... well, is this translation also a perfectly preserved Bible?

False premise.  You're assuming the KJV is a perfectly preserved Bible.
 
The Rogue Tomato said:
Timothy said:
If someone takes the KJV and uses this to translate the Bible into Spanish ... well, is this translation also a perfectly preserved Bible?

False premise.  You're assuming the KJV is a perfectly preserved Bible.

Obviously you can't have two perfectly preserved Bibles.
 
Timothy said:
If someone takes the KJV and uses this to translate the Bible into Spanish ... well, is this translation also a perfectly preserved Bible?

I ask because if someone took the KJV and used it to model a Bible with updated English ... well, wouldn't that be the same as a KJV to Spanish Bible?

To say the KJV is the preserved word of God seems to ignore all other languages. Giving them a disadvantage.

So - with this in mind, how can it be any different to have multiple English translations? After all, God seems to use multiple translations of different languages to edify.

Something to think about ....
The Reina-Valera was translated into Spanish prior to the AV, 1601 I believe.  It is just as much God's Word as the AV is God's Word.  And since God invented language, and then confounded language into over 2,000, His Word can be perfect in any language. 
Any language can also be used by Satan to mix truth with error.
Sadly, many people who claim to believe God's Word, would say 'in English only'.  I resent being categorized with them.

Anishinabe

 
Timothy said:
The Rogue Tomato said:
Timothy said:
If someone takes the KJV and uses this to translate the Bible into Spanish ... well, is this translation also a perfectly preserved Bible?

False premise.  You're assuming the KJV is a perfectly preserved Bible.

Obviously you can't have two perfectly preserved Bibles.

Obviously, some people have an obsessive need to believe that there is a perfectly preserved version of the bible. That obsession is what makes them ignore the logical points made regarding Cambridge vs. Oxford, the apparent lack of a perfect version for over a thousand years prior to the KJV, the complete absence of any biblical evidence that a perfect version is promised and that God speaks more languages than just Elizabethan English.

Foot note to say that by version I mean translation. The idea that the men who translated the bible at the behest of King James were somehow smarter than any who came before or since is just another example of an obsession gone mad. The fact that those same men made the exact same arguments against the idea of perfection (which was directly applied to their own efforts) in translation is ignored out of hand.
 
Timothy said:
If someone takes the KJV and uses this to translate the Bible into Spanish ... well, is this translation also a perfectly preserved Bible?

What do you mean, also? Don't try to sneak your unproven assumptions into the question. It's dishonest.
 
Timothy said:
Obviously you can't have two perfectly preserved Bibles.

Then you have your answer to your question in the OP, don't you?
 
Timothy said:
If someone takes the KJV and uses this to translate the Bible into Spanish ... well, is this translation also a perfectly preserved Bible?

I ask because if someone took the KJV and used it to model a Bible with updated English ... well, wouldn't that be the same as a KJV to Spanish Bible?

To say the KJV is the preserved word of God seems to ignore all other languages. Giving them a disadvantage.

So - with this in mind, how can it be any different to have multiple English translations? After all, God seems to use multiple translations of different languages to edify.

Something to think about ....

If someone takes the KJV and uses this to translate the Bible into Spanish ... well, is this translation also a perfectly preserved Bible?

The translation will not be more accurate than its source, therefore the Spanish translation will not be perfectly preserved.

It is a KJVO false presupposition that the KJV is perfectly preserved. This presupposition has never been proved. This premise is not found in scripture.


To say the KJV is the preserved word of God seems to ignore all other languages. Giving them a disadvantage.

The KJV is not the perfectly preserved Word of God. It has more than one translation error as well as spurious sources. It is the Word of God the same as other professionally translated Bibles.


So - with this in mind, how can it be any different to have multiple English translations? After all, God seems to use multiple translations of different languages to edify.


Multiple translations illuminate the Biblical text.
 
There's also the issue that a translation of the KJV into Spanish would make a copy of a copy, which loses resolution.  Spanish may include words and idioms that make clear passages that are ambiguous (at best, if not downright misleading) due to the limitations of English.

 
The Rogue Tomato said:
There's also the issue that a translation of the KJV into Spanish would make a copy of a copy, which loses resolution.  Spanish may include words and idioms that make clear passages that are ambiguous (at best, if not downright misleading) due to the limitations of English.

Uh huh. I can't think of a good reason why anyone would bother to do that, given that several good translations into Spanish from the Greek and Hebrew already exist. It probably wouldn't be very good, and wouldn't have a market.
 
English is a very ambiguous language. French is much more precise. It is not uncommon in Great Britain to have contracts written in French for this very reason. You can see the same phenomenon here in the US by the need for "legalese" to fill the holes of ambiguity.
 
Izdaari said:
The Rogue Tomato said:
There's also the issue that a translation of the KJV into Spanish would make a copy of a copy, which loses resolution.  Spanish may include words and idioms that make clear passages that are ambiguous (at best, if not downright misleading) due to the limitations of English.

Uh huh. I can't think of a good reason why anyone would bother to do that, given that several good translations into Spanish from the Greek and Hebrew already exist. It probably wouldn't be very good, and wouldn't have a market.

Maybe Timothy would read it
 
4everfsu said:
Izdaari said:
The Rogue Tomato said:
There's also the issue that a translation of the KJV into Spanish would make a copy of a copy, which loses resolution.  Spanish may include words and idioms that make clear passages that are ambiguous (at best, if not downright misleading) due to the limitations of English.

Uh huh. I can't think of a good reason why anyone would bother to do that, given that several good translations into Spanish from the Greek and Hebrew already exist. It probably wouldn't be very good, and wouldn't have a market.

Maybe Timothy would read it

Ha Ha Ha . Very Funny .
 
subllibrm said:
English is a very ambiguous language. French is much more precise. It is not uncommon in Great Britain to have contracts written in French for this very reason. You can see the same phenomenon here in the US by the need for "legalese" to fill the holes of ambiguity.

In Hebrew Exegetical Methods, one of my classmates was a native French speaker. He often pointed out how French was superior than English when it involved translating from Hebrew.
 
FSSL said:
subllibrm said:
English is a very ambiguous language. French is much more precise. It is not uncommon in Great Britain to have contracts written in French for this very reason. You can see the same phenomenon here in the US by the need for "legalese" to fill the holes of ambiguity.

In Hebrew Exegetical Methods, one of my classmates was a native French speaker. He often pointed out how French was superior than English when it involved translating from Hebrew.
that's why we eat feeedom fries, now...!@#$/ frogs!!!

Anishinabe

 
prophet said:
FSSL said:
subllibrm said:
English is a very ambiguous language. French is much more precise. It is not uncommon in Great Britain to have contracts written in French for this very reason. You can see the same phenomenon here in the US by the need for "legalese" to fill the holes of ambiguity.

In Hebrew Exegetical Methods, one of my classmates was a native French speaker. He often pointed out how French was superior than English when it involved translating from Hebrew.
that's why we eat feeedom fries, now...!@#$/ frogs!!!

Anishinabe

Freedom Fries! Liberty Toast! And Patriotic kissing!!!! C'mon sweety, do it for your country!!!  :D
 
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