Biden’s America

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He was a PhD student and a vegan killer. ‘Nuff said.
Idaho victim's father says she had CONNECTIONS to suspected killer
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This happened just 30 miles from where I live and folks thousands of miles away seem to have a better grip on what happened than anyone around here. :unsure:

I'm pleased to see all parties involved have declared they'll work with authorities. If the authorities do their job, a just outcome will occur.

I highly doubt the suspect's defense team will want the trial to occur anywhere near Moscow.
 
This is why I won’t tolerate even a hint of hypothetical discussion over the role pedophile’s should play in the lives of children in a church (and should be any) setting. The reason is because it’s becoming normalized and, as Beck points out in this video, it’s happening quickly and it’s going to be the next “it” movement.
 
in my mind.. and perhaps the only positive thing biden has done in his tenure as president... was to dispell the commonly held myth that once you learn to ride a bike you never forget..... ...he had already disproven one of the other damaging but popular myths that says anything which doesn;t kill you only makes you stronger before he got elected..... ....no.... i have always said.... and biden has now proven to the whole country.... that things which don;t kill you can also leave you disfunctional and dependent on others for the rest of your life.... and that it will show no matter how hard your friends and supporters try to hide it.....

but as far as glen beck is concerned.... ...i don;t trust him as being sincere.... until he comes out and publicly denounces the mormon church... which he is a part of..... and which still supports polygamy and the concept of older "established" men selecting young girls from the church to marry them while still in their teens... to become "sister wives" with a dozen or more other women... then i will remain suspicious of him... ..as i am suspicious of any mormon who is actually knowlegable of what mormons believe.... yet remains in that cult....

and with republicans ready to give away the farm i fear we have only seen the beginning of what bidens america is going to become....
 
I used to think of Mormons as a reliably conservative voting bloc but, lately, they have seemed to go RINO. I was wondering about this when recently, I read a book by an ex-Mormon. He detailed some of the changes that have happened throughout the church's history and has pointed out that positions once held by the prophets of old actually reflected the culture of the age. As cultural norms have changed, the declarations of the prophets have followed suit so as not to conflict with societal norms and make membership more attractive. Of course, if there is also money to be made, doctrinal positions will reflect whatever keeps the dough rolling in.

Talk about money... look at any Mormon church building and you'll see they are all architecturally similar. While not overly ornate, they are very prominent in their neighborhoods (wards). Their grounds are immaculately kept and structures are extremely well maintained. I have visited only one university campus of theirs, BYU Idaho in Rexburg which includes a temple. In looking at all of their facilities, I could hear the cash register digging.
 
abcaines said:
I used to think of Mormons as a reliably conservative voting bloc but, lately, they have seemed to go RINO. I was wondering about this when recently, I read a book by an ex-Mormon. He detailed some of the changes that have happened throughout the church's history and has pointed out that positions once held by the prophets of old actually reflected the culture of the age. As cultural norms have changed, the declarations of the prophets have followed suit so as not to conflict with societal norms and make membership more attractive. Of course, if there is also money to be made, doctrinal positions will reflect whatever keeps the dough rolling in.

Talk about money... look at any Mormon church building and you'll see they are all architecturally similar. While not overly ornate, they are very prominent in their neighborhoods (wards). Their grounds are immaculately kept and structures are extremely well maintained. I have visited only one university campus of theirs, BYU Idaho in Rexburg which includes a temple. In looking at all of their facilities, I could hear the cash register digging.
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yep... it;s a cult devoted to personal prosperity and based on lies.... which teaches those who grow up in it how to keep and maintain those lies... literally how to keep the dirtiest of secrets all the way to the grave... .... and that is the reason why the CIA ...and a few other government 3 letter agencies... love to recruit people from the military and law enforcement who might have grown up mormon....
 
abcaines said:
I used to think of Mormons as a reliably conservative voting bloc but, lately, they have seemed to go RINO. I was wondering about this when recently, I read a book by an ex-Mormon. He detailed some of the changes that have happened throughout the church's history and has pointed out that positions once held by the prophets of old actually reflected the culture of the age. As cultural norms have changed, the declarations of the prophets have followed suit so as not to conflict with societal norms and make membership more attractive. Of course, if there is also money to be made, doctrinal positions will reflect whatever keeps the dough rolling in.

Talk about money... look at any Mormon church building and you'll see they are all architecturally similar. While not overly ornate, they are very prominent in their neighborhoods (wards). Their grounds are immaculately kept and structures are extremely well maintained. I have visited only one university campus of theirs, BYU Idaho in Rexburg which includes a temple. In looking at all of their facilities, I could hear the cash register digging.
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My younger brother's mother was a Mormon, and I'm not sure, but I believe he might be as well. I just met him for the first time in July of 2021. He lives in Idaho (Boise) and has asked about the Mormon "church" several times...also asking about the Baptist church.
We lived in a town where the Mormons vacated their building. It's now being used as a police precinct if I'm not mistaken..
 
Part of Mormon political lunacy is found in Idaho Senator Mike Crapo. He comes across as a staunch republican and moral Mormon. He opposed Trump at every chance he could because of Trump's immoral character and past behavior. Obviously, Senator Crapo forgot all about his DUI conviction 2013. But he apologized so I guess that makes it alright.
 
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but as far as glen beck is concerned.... ...i don;t trust him as being sincere.... until he comes out and publicly denounces the mormon church... which he is a part of..... and which still supports polygamy and the concept of older "established" men selecting young girls from the church to marry them while still in their teens... to become "sister wives" with a dozen or more other women... then i will remain suspicious of him.
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Aleshanee - quite frankly, I wouldn’t care if an avowed atheist said what Glenn Beck did. In fact, I’d appreciate hearing that an atheist still has some type of moral compass to recognize that what Beck is saying about the sexualization of children in today’s world, and the growing acceptance of the pedophile mindset, isn’t acceptable under any circumstances.

Regarding your statements about Mormons, I’m not going to argue whether a Mormon can go to heaven or not. I’ll leave that conversation for the theologians among us. However, I do know that polygamy existed for about fifty years and has been strictly forbidden by the LDS church since 1890. Whether modern Mormons secretly still think plural marriages are okay or not, I’m not sure. But I do know that as someone who attends (and grew up in) a fundamental Baptist church, I wouldn’t want all fundamental Baptist churches to be judged on the example of the fundamentalist Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas. I’ve also attended Southern Baptist churches before, and I also wouldn’t want people in 2023 to categorize every modern member as a secret supporter of slavery, just because back in the 1800s, that’s basically how the SBC was formed. Make sense?
 
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Aleshanee - quite frankly, I wouldn’t care if an avowed atheist said what Glenn Beck did. In fact, I’d appreciate hearing that an atheist still has some type of moral compass to recognize that what Beck is saying about the sexualization of children in today’s world, and the growing acceptance of the pedophile mindset, isn’t acceptable under any circumstances.

Regarding your statements about Mormons, I’m not going to argue whether a Mormon can go to heaven or not. I’ll leave that conversation for the theologians among us. However, I do know that polygamy existed for about fifty years and has been strictly forbidden by the LDS church since 1890. Whether modern Mormons secretly still think plural marriages are okay or not, I’m not sure. But I do know that as someone who attends (and grew up in) a fundamental Baptist church, I wouldn’t want all fundamental Baptist churches to be judged on the example of the fundamentalist Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas. I’ve also attended Southern Baptist churches before, and I also wouldn’t want people in 2023 to categorize every modern member as a secret supporter of slavery, just because back in the 1800s, that’s basically how the SBC was formed. Make sense?
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don;t get me wrong... i agree with everything beck said on this issue..... and i know more about what goes on in that world he is righteously speaking against than even he or most anyone else does... ..... but that;s just it.... mormons are taught from kindergarten how to go along to get along.. and how to speak what the people want to hear in public while literally making deals with the devil in secret....

as it happens i do know a thing or 2 about mormons.... ... some of it i learned by doing some research on them and other things was also told to me by former mormons who had been raised in it and got out when they realized where it was going to take them.... ....mormonism can be summed up in one statement laid down by it;s elders in the very beginning of the cult... and that upper level mormons to this day still proudly expound like a mantra... ..it says.... "as man is - God once was... and as God is - man may one day become....".... ..

ask any elder mormon or "temple" mormon you might know about that statement of their belief, and watch how they react to it.... a lot of young mormons or mormons in name only are not even aware their church constitution teaches that..... but everything that happens in a mormon temple from being baptized for the dead to having elder mormon men marry dead unmarried women by proxy goes toward that end of preparing and equipping successful and faithful mormon men to become gods over their own planet out in the universe some day....

if you don;t believe me then read about it.... do some research.... a good start is a book called "the god makers" written by a former mormon..... but there is also plenty of writings by joseph smith himself and brigham young in libraries and on the internet, that the church still follows and secretly supports.... lying about themselves is what they are best at....
 
The simple truth is that there are Christians in the Mormon church. It's sad...but it's true. But, most in the Mormon faith are far from being Christians. It's that way with EVERY denomination.
 
aleshanee said:
don;t get me wrong... i agree with everything beck said on this issue..... and i know more about what goes on in that world he is righteously speaking against than even he or most anyone else does... ..... but that;s just it.... mormons are taught from kindergarten how to go along to get along.. and how to speak what the people want to hear in public while literally making deals with the devil in secret....

as it happens i do know a thing or 2 about mormons.... ... some of it i learned by doing some research on them and other things was also told to me by former mormons who had been raised in it and got out when they realized where it was going to take them.... ....mormonism can be summed up in one statement laid down by it;s elders in the very beginning of the cult... and that upper level mormons to this day still proudly expound like a mantra... ..it says.... "as man is - God once was... and as God is - man may one day become....".... ..

ask any elder mormon or "temple" mormon you might know about that statement of their belief, and watch how they react to it.... a lot of young mormons or mormons in name only are not even aware their church constitution teaches that..... but everything that happens in a mormon temple from being baptized for the dead to having elder mormon men marry dead unmarried women by proxy goes toward that end of preparing and equipping successful and faithful mormon men to become gods over their own planet out in the universe some day....

if you don;t believe me then read about it.... do some research.... a good start is a book called "the god makers" written by a former mormon..... but there is also plenty of writings by joseph smith himself and brigham young in libraries and on the internet, that the church still follows and secretly supports.... lying about themselves is what they are best at....
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Oddly enough, I actually took a Mormon history class in undergraduate. I say oddly, because I learned more American history in that class than I did in any actual American history class. It was fascinating and very informative. We did get into Mormonism, but it wasn’t a pure religious class, so I’d say it was skimming the surface mainly. Still, I do recall some odd things they practice, such as the wearing of “holy underwear” and we did get into the whole polygamy debate. My professor was an ex-Mormon who was still very sympathetic and involved with the church as an academic, and although he never flat out said he believed in it, I definitely got the impression he wasn’t anti-plural marriage. It’s an odd sect of Christianity for sure. In many ways they remind me of fundamental Baptists, but with a lot more man-driven twists.
 
“In the beginning was the gospel preached through the Son. And the gospel was the Word. And the Word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God,” (John 1:1, Joseph Smith Translation).
 
Huk, the Mormon's are NOT a "sect of Christianity." They can refer to themselves as such, but, they are not, nor will they ever be a sect of Christianity.
 
AverageJoe said:
Huk, the Mormon's are NOT a "sect of Christianity." They can refer to themselves as such, but, they are not, nor will they ever be a sect of Christianity.
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What do you call them? A subset of Christianity?
 
Huk said:
Oddly enough, I actually took a Mormon history class in undergraduate. I say oddly, because I learned more American history in that class than I did in any actual American history class. It was fascinating and very informative. We did get into Mormonism, but it wasn’t a pure religious class, so I’d say it was skimming the surface mainly. Still, I do recall some odd things they practice, such as the wearing of “holy underwear” and we did get into the whole polygamy debate. My professor was an ex-Mormon who was still very sympathetic and involved with the church as an academic, and although he never flat out said he believed in it, I definitely got the impression he wasn’t anti-plural marriage. It’s an odd sect of Christianity for sure. In many ways they remind me of fundamental Baptists, but with a lot more man-driven twists.
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one of the things i learned was that joseph smith had once been a scammer who claimed he could find buried gold on peoples property by way of a seeing stone he would look through.... people paid him to look for this gold.... but in all his scamming career he never found any.... he always claimed the gold had moved somewhere else..... about the time authorities were about to arrest him for this - josephs brother hiram joined the masonic lodge... so joseph tried to join it to.... but was rejected due to his scam activities..... so joseph started reading all his brothers books given to him by the masons.... which were supposed to be kept secret but which his brother didn;t guard very well.... and within a few months joseph had started his own religion which just happened to mirror the masonic order in both structure and practice... he even copied the 32 degrees of enlightenment thing in the masonic order.... but which took it beyond what masons practice to the extreme beliefs in polygamy and in making themselves gods....

joseph smith claimed his inspiration for this new religion came from a set of golden plates that he found in the ground... using the same seer stone he once used to look for gold as a scam... .. and they were golden plates that only he ever saw and which only he could interpret.... ..after they were interpreted he claims they disapeared in the same way the gold he use to look for on peoples property always disappeared..... well educated people within the mormon church are aware of the connection between the masonic order and the structure of the mormons practices.... they brush it off and some even laugh about it... but they all admit it also makes them a lot of money and gets them into upper level business deals and positions of power in the same way being a high level mason does.... ...

and on a side note i actually know someone very well who once carried a cardiac patient in critical condition right throough the center of the main mormon temple here in hawaii ... and took him directly in front of their baptistry as they were performing their rituals..... a mormon office worker allowed his crew to do that after being told he was likely to be personally sued if they insisted on having the ems crew carry that patient back out the door and all the way around the outside of the building through the mud... and if something bad happened to the patient because of it....

the distance through the temple to the ambulance parked out front was less than a quarter of the distance around the building.. and bee-line straight.. and also on a dry level floor - rather than a muddy garden which they had been forced to go through when they first arrived just to get to the patient..... the patient lived and was very grateful for the way the medic and crew insisted on him getting quick and proper treatment.... but the fire storm that came down on that medic and his entire department over that action was beyond belief and almost got him fired... and it wasn;t just the issue of soiling the carpet either.. it was because he and his crew had seen temple mormons in their holey garments and in a part of their temple that no non mormon was ever supposed to see.... a place not even low level mormons like the worker who was having a heart attack were allowed to see... which ironically was another thing that cardiac patient said he was thankful for that day.... he literally got to the see the dirty undergarments of the beast he had been bowing to all his life....
 
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abcaines said:
“In the beginning was the gospel preached through the Son. And the gospel was the Word. And the Word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God,” (John 1:1, Joseph Smith Translation).
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he did create his own version of the bible.... but it was actually only a revision of the king james bible and most likely the 1769 edition ...and not even the highly exalted 1611.... because in some parts of the book of mormon that smith claimed was spoken to him directly by angels - the angels apparently quoted scripture.... and from what he wrote it appears the angels spoke the language of the 1769 king james bible.. complete with the mispellings and gramatical errors therein..

the revealing part of the joseph smith story came later in his life.... and should have been the final nail in the coffin of his respectability.... was when a group of news reporters had a set of fake golden plates made up and had them ingraved with strange and meaningless markings in a way similar to what they had heard smith claim was on the original plates..... they presented these fake plates to smith and told him they had been dug up on a farm somewhere.... smith took them with delite and exclaimed they were indeed a continuation of the same revelations he had been given by the earlier plates.... and he immediately began "interpretting" them...... ......the news paper reported the truth of the whole incident... and wrote that only a fake prophet claims he can interpret fake golden plates....

and yet the deception continues.... given credence today by the fact our own u.s. government uses the mormons vast library of geneological records amassed over the years to gather information and complete and complile their own records on the u.s. public... and also on other parts of the world where mormons have operated.... never mind those records where amassed in the first place to allow mormons to circumvent and even give off the appearance of supporting u.s. laws banning polygamy, by creating a method whereby temple mormons could continue having multiple wives through marriage by proxy of any female throughout history up to current times that died unmarried... and who no other temple mormon had already married by proxy....

and why is that important to them?...... because they will need those extra wives in the after life when they become a god of their own planet... in order to begin populating that planet with their own offspring.. ...i have no doubt that the deeper secrets of their cult get even weirder than that..... but that was as much as i cared to learn about them.... i;m already mentally disturbed enough as it is.....
 
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