Cameron Giovanelli removed from GSBC

[Binaca Chugger]

So, I am late to this party.  The videos are all down.  Tom Neal's letter rages on like the bull-headed blustery blowhard that he is.  Normally, if Tom Neal is criticizing someone, that is a person I should support.  Stands to reason that Ol Tom who covered a multitude of crimes would use his highest criticism of claiming someone isn't a good Christian who speaks against a pastor friend of his.  Still, there isn't much information here.  Would someone update the claims and status?

Notice how Tommy Boy inserted himself in the situation, and then said "we" as if he was on staff at NVBC or something?

What a tool!

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I remember when Tom Neal was preaching against your "Golden Opportunity" at Golden State Baptist College.  Ol Tom was hittin Trieber pretty hard trying to "Defend the Faith" from such liberals as Jack Trieber.  Now, Tom claims that Jack is a bastion of Fundamentalism.  (sigh)

 

[prophet]

So, I am late to this party.  The videos are all down.  Tom Neal's letter rages on like the bull-headed blustery blowhard that he is.  Normally, if Tom Neal is criticizing someone, that is a person I should support.  Stands to reason that Ol Tom who covered a multitude of crimes would use his highest criticism of claiming someone isn't a good Christian who speaks against a pastor friend of his.  Still, there isn't much information here.  Would someone update the claims and status?

Notice how Tommy Boy inserted himself in the situation, and then said "we" as if he was on staff at NVBC or something?

What a tool!

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I remember when Tom Neal was preaching against your "Golden Opportunity" at Golden State Baptist College.  Ol Tom was hittin Trieber pretty hard trying to "Defend the Faith" from such liberals as Jack Trieber.  Now, Tom claims that Jack is a bastion of Fundamentalism.  (sigh)

I'm pretty sure that type of "theology" is dependent upon followers who don't think.

Anyone our age remembers that embarrassing "feud", where Neal and Gray made an ass out of the Hyles wing of 'SBC expellee IFB'.

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[prophet]

I wonder if Neal feels involved, or obligated to be civil with NVBC/GSBC because of Mark Neal's marriage to a NVBC girl?



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[Twisted]

The latest:  https://www.star-telegram.com/living/religion/article222576310.html#storylink=latest_side

 

[Twisted]

https://letterstofreedom921133037.wordpress.com/2018/12/09/dear-cameron/?fbclid=IwAR2QuPqFmk3s1Fipbu9AfbpicNbQpSn273rQ5tWPWOMpM-g-MsXhHfCCccQ

 

[prophet]

I wonder if Neal feels involved, or obligated to be civil with NVBC/GSBC because of Mark Neal's marriage to a NVBC girl?



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Oh, And Peepshow Greg, married a NVBC girl, too.

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[prophet]

https://letterstofreedom921133037.wordpress.com/2018/12/09/dear-cameron/?fbclid=IwAR2QuPqFmk3s1Fipbu9AfbpicNbQpSn273rQ5tWPWOMpM-g-MsXhHfCCccQ

Why isn't this sack of trash in prison or dead, again?

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[Twisted]

He was arrested today.

 

[qwerty]

He was arrested today.

Did Greg get it on video?

 

[Twisted]

He was arrested today.

Did Greg get it on video?

Ouch!

 

[GuyfawkesV49]

https://www.news4jax.com/news/man-who-hired-pastor-accused-sexual-abuse-was-investigated-for-voyeurism?fbclid=IwAR0qp5JXL0ERrQBv4tEHi6yWsCfLlnaiew9jZ1taF9Pt-vNp2VXCijbfXCo

 

[Twisted]

https://youtu.be/T2ER6SM_uAM

 

[honkytonkopenairpreacher]

All of the foregoing begs an important question: Is there any realistic and meaningful way for bad actors who occupy the pulpits of Fundamental Independent Baptist (FIB) churches to be defrocked?

 

[FSSL]

All of the foregoing begs an important question: Is there any realistic and meaningful way for bad actors who occupy the pulpits of Fundamental Independent Baptist (FIB) churches to be defrocked?

The congregational structure depends on those in his congregation.

Regional and National conferences have been known to allow for some of the more well-connected men to continue speaking.

 

[Ransom]

All of the foregoing begs an important question: Is there any realistic and meaningful way for bad actors who occupy the pulpits of Fundamental Independent Baptist (FIB) churches to be defrocked?

More difficult than a pastor in a denomination that answers to a higher authority, where being credibly caught in a sex scandal would probably result in the revocation of his credentials.

If an independent church has a board of elders, then it would fall on them to defrock and/or dismiss the offender.

But if he's the dictator of the church or the elders are his yes-men, it's much more difficult since he doesn't answer to anyone higher than himself, and effectively there's no way to remove him short of extended jail time if his offence warranted that.