Can a Christian be an atheist?

[AverageJoe]

all the democrats i know are in favor of them..... i am not doubting that what you say is true - and i am sure out there somewhere there are rank and file democrats who are against their partys obsession with drag queens.... . but do you know of any democrat politicans currently in office who are against them?.......... it;s a serious question.... .. if there are.... and specifically some prominent democrats who could steer their party the other way and back toward decency... i would really like to know who they are.... . i would support them in any way possible short of actually voting for them..... ....i know tulsi gabbard was always against drag queens but she is no longer a democrat....

I know that several of the older Dema in our states House are not in favor of them. I don't know how it is in Hawaii, but here in the middle and deep South, many rank and file party members, usually the older ones, are not in favor of much their party is promoting these days and have threatened to leave the party. Some have already become Independent.

 

[Baptist Renegade]

True. I know that in the church we just left two of the elderly deacons were lifelong Democrats but hated much of the parties platform.

I remember when "Conservative Democrat" was a valid term although I was too young to understand where they actually stood politically. We also had the "Reagan Democrat" moniker a few decades ago. I would guess that these elderly deacons would be along these lines but the Democrat party they were a part of is long gone! Perhaps the same can be said about the Republican party as well?

 

[Bruh]

Glad I can help brighten your day.
Regardless of your mood, my post is correct.
The Christian Democrats booed God at one of their conventions.

Definitely doesn’t mean they’re all like that.

 

[AverageJoe]

I remember when "Conservative Democrat" was a valid term although I was too young to understand where they actually stood politically. We also had the "Reagan Democrat" moniker a few decades ago. I would guess that these elderly deacons would be along these lines but the Democrat party they were a part of is long gone! Perhaps the same can be said about the Republican party as well?

Exactly! Some of today's people/voters don't know nor understand these terms. Two of the four elderly deacons voted for Reagan and seriously considered leaving the Democrats to become independents. Republicans left my wife and I long ago, and we became independents.

 

[Gringo]

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If a Christisn is someone who has put their trust and faith in THE SON OF GOD, I don't see how a true chrisian can be an atheist.
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[Tarheel Baptist]

True. I know that in the church we just left two of the elderly deacons were lifelong Democrats but hated much of the parties platform.

The Party Platform defines what a Democrat actually is.

 

[ALAYMAN]

to quote barbarosa.. ."thar be a lot of long words in there... and we;re not but humble pirates...".... ....

Aaaarrrrgggghhhh, shiver me timbers matey!

or at least some of us are.. .. ..i never was a student of psychology as much as i was a recipient of it;s services... .. my sister is the one with the phd.... . .... but i think even she would question whether it;s truly cognitive dissonance.... (a war within oneself... or simply put... denial) .... that leads to most of the political/theoretical disagreements in christianity?.... or are they simply that? - disagreements.....

it could be true...... but one of the problems with that phrase today - is that the woke-left green new dealers have used it so often to describe those of us who don;t support their climate change ideolgy, until it has lost it;s effectiveness.... ..the way they use it now it does simply indicate a disagreement.... but their use of it is also intended to ascribe some kind of mental illness or deficiency on the part of those disagreeing with them.... in other words they use it as a cheap shot to write us off....... and as a way of cloaking themselves in their own kind of denial - in order to avoid getting involved in a real discussion about what is going on.... ..

another way to describe it is like - rather than getting down and doing battle in the trenches - they do high fly overs at 30 thousand feet .... and from the safety of altitude - carpet bomb the entire battle field..... granted it does halt the discourse.... but does nothing to resolve it....

I was just thinking of lack of continuity in their application of theological thought. In some fundamentalists worlds it was OK to fiddle with kids or beat your wife so long as you went soulwinning enough.

 

[aleshanee]

Aaaarrrrgggghhhh, shiver me timbers matey!



I was just thinking of lack of continuity in their application of theological thought. In some fundamentalists worlds it was OK to fiddle with kids or beat your wife so long as you went soulwinning enough.

admittedly.... i still don;t know much about fundamentalist baptist worlds... .. though part of why i stayed on these forums for so long was in an attempt to learn and figure it out..... ...that reason is now long dead since the people once close to us... that i was trying to figure out and understand ...claim they are no longer even christian ..or believers anymore.... much less baptist fundamentalists.... .. and they are not close to us anymore either.... .... .. it use to be we were too liberal to be accepted by them or tolerated in their company.... and now we are too conservative.... . .... figure that one out if you can.... . but i can;t.... . ...

but from the outside it seems their "religion" was in reality a worship of their own personal whims and wishes... rather than a worship of an actual God they knew and could pray to... ..... and as their whims and wishes changed so did their various stands ... statements ... and convictions.... ..but then there is also this idea apparent in fundamentalism that in order to be righteous you have to be adamantly opposed to something.... to be a hater of whatever it is you deem as "the world" at any given time... and they were certainly that.. ..

trouble is the world changes what it believes and stands for from time to time.... and what i saw in fundamentalists was not a group of religious people faithfully standing strong on a set of beliefs and values - but a group that was changing as the world around them changed - carefully staying a safe distance away from the world at all times... and sometimes even swapping positions with those in the world... and believing they were righteous just so long they were not the same .. and not doing the same...at any given time, as those "other folks"....

so are they truly following Christ?... or are they simply a separatist group counter-reacting to the current and common culture?.... . ..is that too many "c" words in a row?.... sorry.... i;m trying to write in a language my brain is not working in right now... . i guess what i;m trying to say is i see the same thing happening here... . it;s not a matter of standing in the right place ...just a matter of making sure the place you stand is different from where everyone else might be.. ... and specifically different from where those "other people" are standing.... and counting that difference as evidence of righteousness......

 

[ALAYMAN]

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so are they truly following Christ?... or are they simply a separatist group counter-reacting to the current and common culture?.... . ..is

I think that’s a pretty good summary. People often make lifestyle and philosophical decisions based on outward conformity to social pressure, but the internal change that occurs when Christ comes into our lives will manifest itself in grace and confidence in His word, regardless of culture (or “the world”).

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

As I’ve said before:
If a Christian can be a Democrat they’re halfway there.